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Re: I have end-of-lifed cvsps

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Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>
Date
Dec 12, 2013, 19:48 UTC
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> Yikes!  That is a much stricter stability criterion than I thought you
> were specifying.

:-) -- cvsps's approach is: if you have a cache, you can remember the lies you told earlier.

It is impossible to be stable purely from the source data in the face of these issues.

CVS is truly a PoS.
> I think it would handle 1a in a stable way

that is pretty important. Files added on a branch not affecting HEAD and earlier branch checkout matters.

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> What I think this means is that cvs-fast-export is stable if you are
> using a server/client combination that generates commitids (that is,
> GNU CVS of any version newer than 1.12 of 2004, or CVS-NT). It is
> *not* necessary for stability that the entire history have them.
>
> Here's how the logic works out:
>
> 1. Commits grouped by commitid are stable - nothing in CVS ever rewrites
> those or assigns a duplicate.
>
> 2. No file change made with a commitid can destabilize a commit guess
> made without them, because the similarity checker never tries to put both
> kinds in a single changeset.
>
> Can you detect any flaw in this?

If someone creates a nonsensical tag or branch point, tagging files from different commits, how do you handle it?

 - without commit ids, does it affect your guesses?
 - regardless of commit ids, do you synthesize an artificial commit?
How do you define parenthood for that artificial commit?
curious,
m
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