Re: [PATCH] add a Code of Conduct document

From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Date: Sep 24, 2019, 14:40 UTC
Message-ID: <9e65e95c-4a8d-c904-d8e9-bdd494f41ce0@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20190924090152.GA7209@szeder.dev>

Hi Gábor

On 24/09/2019 10:01, SZEDER Gábor wrote:

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> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 02:44:54AM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> After some poking around at various CoC options, this one seemed like
>> the best fit to me. But I'm open to suggestions or more discussion. It
>> seems to me that the important piece is having _some_ CoC, and picking
>> something standard-ish seems a safe bet.
> 
> We are decent people, and know how to behave properly and treat each
> other with respect.  It is my fundamental assumption that all future
> contributors are decent and respectful human beings as well.

History suggests that almost all will be decent but there will be one or two who aren't and cause trouble.

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> A CoC
> like this, which is "explicit about the behavior we want to model"
> (quoting the original discussion starter) inherently insinuates that
> we aren't decent, and can't behave without being told how to do so.
> Frankly, I find this borderline insulting to me, to my parents, to all
> fellow contributors, and to future contributors as well.

I don't find it insulting, to me it just sets out that the project welcomes contributors who behave decently.

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> There are locations, nationalities and cultures, where the avarage
> wide-spread CoCs, like Contributor Covenant and its derivatives, are
> perceived as (paraphrasing) too "American", politically overcorrect,
> corporate BS, etc., which are forced upon open-source projects.
> Consequently, such CoCs are often found rather discouraging, and
> announcements about their adoption in open-source projects generally
> get negative reaction.
> 
> Less is more.  Much-much more.  A concise CoC that treats its readers
> as responsible, well-behaved human beings is met with much approval.

I was pleasantly surprised at how short the proposed CoC is, I don't think it's too long at all. It only takes a couple of minutes to read and is quite clear.

Best Wishes

Phillip

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> Take, for example, the TrueOS Rules of Conduct, which in just a few
> short sentences covers everything that's worth covering:
> 
>    https://www.trueos.org/rulesofconduct/
> 
> If diversity and inclusion of other cultures is indeed a priority,
> then we should carefully consider that some potential contributors
> will rather choose not to contribute because of a CoC like this.
> 
> 
>> If people are on board with this direction, it might be fun to pick up a
>> bunch of "Acked-by" trailers from people in the community who agree with
>> it. It might give it more weight if many members have publicly endorsed
>> it.
> 
> Because of the above I'm leaning towards NACK.
>