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Re: A tour of git: the basics (and notes on some unfriendly messages)

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Wincent Colaiuta <win@wincent.com>
Date
Sep 30, 2007, 12:45 UTC
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El 29/9/2007, a las 11:01, Pierre Habouzit escribió:
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>   Many git commands output are still messy and indeed, having them  
> in C
> should help in that regard. The usual culprit are I think:
>
>   * git fetch/clone/pull/.. ;
>   * git push ;
>   * git repack/gc/... ;
>   * git merge (even with the merge.verbosity set to the minimum it's
>     still not very readable and confusing).
>
>
>   I do believe that the quite verbose output git commands sometimes  
> have
> is quite confusing, and let the user think it's messy. I believe that
> porcelains should be more silent, it's OK for the plumbing to spit
> progress messages and so on, because people using the plumbing are  
> able
> to understand those, but porcelains should not.

I think that most people just want to know, "Did it work or not?" and so when the commands chatter too much they go into filter mode, don't really read the output, let alone try to understand it, and just skim it. Ideally Git would be much less "chattery" in general when things work, and only be more verbose when things go wrong; of course, finding that balance point is where the art lies.

Wincent
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Message 14 of 26 in “A tour of git: the basics (and notes on some unfriendly messages)”
  1. Carl WorthSep 28, 2007
  2. Shawn O. PearceSep 29, 2007
  3. Johannes SchindelinSep 29, 2007
  4. Steffen ProhaskaSep 29, 2007
  5. Johannes SchindelinSep 29, 2007
  6. Steffen ProhaskaSep 29, 2007
  7. WinGit: included /bin/start in the installerSteffen Prohaska, Sep 29, 2007
  8. WinGit: include html pages from official git.git's html branchSteffen Prohaska, Sep 29, 2007
  9. Johannes SchindelinSep 29, 2007
  10. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2007
  11. Johannes SchindelinSep 29, 2007
  12. Steffen ProhaskaSep 30, 2007
  13. Pierre HabouzitSep 29, 2007
  14. Wincent ColaiutaSep 30, 2007
  15. Pierre HabouzitSep 30, 2007
  16. Wincent ColaiutaSep 30, 2007
  17. Steffen ProhaskaSep 29, 2007
  18. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2007
  19. Steffen ProhaskaSep 30, 2007
  20. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2007
  21. Johannes SchindelinSep 30, 2007
  22. Steffen ProhaskaSep 30, 2007
  23. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2007
  24. Carl WorthSep 30, 2007
  25. Carl WorthSep 30, 2007
  26. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuySep 29, 2007

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