English/German terminology, git.git's de.po, and pro-git
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Thomas Rast <trast@inf.ethz.ch>
- Date
- May 13, 2013, 12:54 UTC
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Hi
I hope I got together a Cc list that pretty much represents everyone involved in git core and pro-git book translation into German.
As I am sure you are all aware, there are two main religions as to how one can translate technical material into German: leave the technical terms mostly in English, or translate them to an appropriate corresponding word. I'll denote them G+E and Ger, respectively. I would really like to avoid rehashing that entire discussion in this thread, if at all possible; we've flogged that horse enough. See e.g. [1] for previous threads on the git list about the transation.
However, an unfortunate and unsatisfactory situation has developed: Christian Stimming's git-gui de.po uses a Ger translation, and Ralf Thielow built core git's de.po on top of it, so it's also Ger.
Meanwhile, and independently, Sven Fuchs and Ralph Haussmann wrote a translation of pro-git (which is also quite mature at this point, having apparently begun in 2009), and as you probably guessed by now, it's G+E.
So that leaves us at a point where "the" libre Git book (and also the one that happens to be hosted on git-scm.com, the official site) does not match the terminology used by German git.
Like, at all. They're not even remotely near each other.
Therefore, a total newbie would find at least one of those two totally useless. I haven't done a comprehensive survey yet, but it is my impression that the commercial git books are also G+E, so the hypothetical newbie would be stuck learning the English terms in one of the two regardless.
So where to go from this mess?
Obviously -- unless the agreement is that the status quo should persist -- we'd first have to sort out what the preferable translation should be. And I'm a bit scared of trying, except that a straw poll on IRC gave me some hope that a simple majority vote could help settle it.
My vote is G+E.
After that, we should create a unified glossary. Even in the G+E case, a few terms would presumably be translated fully and some others might have partial translations (checkout -> auschecken?). The current glossary for git's de.po is [2]. I have no idea what Sven and Ralph do. Perhaps a github wiki page would be fine for everyone?
Finally, converting the existing translation will require some manpower. I'll help review things, as I have previously done for translation updates of core git de.po; perhaps with a few more volunteers it can be done pretty quickly.
Thanks for your time.
- Thomas
[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/58315
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/156226/focus=156373
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/196779/focus=196792[2] https://github.com/ralfth/git-po-de/wiki/Glossary
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Thomas Rast
trast@{inf,student}.ethz.ch