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Re: [PATCH 0/2] Making "git commit" to mean "git commit -a".

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Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>
Date
Nov 29, 2006, 18:53 UTC
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Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org> writes:
> Of course amongst those newbies that didn't went away at this point 
> there will be those who decide to study further and come to the index 
> concept.  And I hope that we all agree that the index is a powerful but 
> still advanced concept that should not be presented up front.
I do not necessarily agree with the last sentence.
> But my point is: why not making a very little change to the default 
> commit behavior. Really little change involving -a being the default.  

While I understand that is what you are suggesting, my point is that it will not stop at "commit -a". I already gave an example that "diff" needs to behave differently, if you want to match the behaviour of git consistently with "newbie" expectations.

If you go down that path, you would end up with two systems named git, that base their operations on two quite different mental models and behave differently. You do not want to go there; well at least I don't.

> The impact on newbies will be significant as they won't have to grok 
> everything at once to make sense of this -a we are telling them to use 
> blindly.

So don't tell them to use "-a" blindly. Teach them what it means using the terms they understand; we assume they haven't learned the "index" yet, so we would explain that "it is a way to commit all changes in the working tree". It is a short-hand so that they do not have to list all modified paths (or their git is recent enough, ".").

After they learn what it means and get used to using it, they will start wondering why we do not default to "-a". By that time, they would already have learned the config (because the first thing the tutorial teaches is user.name/user.email), and can use the alias mechanismk there to alias -a away.

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Message 8 of 76 in “Re: [PATCH 0/2] Making "git commit" to mean "git commit -a".”
  1. Junio C HamanoNov 29, 2006
  2. Nicolas PitreNov 29, 2006
  3. Junio C HamanoNov 29, 2006
  4. Nicolas PitreNov 29, 2006
  5. Jakub NarebskiNov 29, 2006
  6. Steven GrimmNov 29, 2006
  7. Jakub NarebskiNov 29, 2006
  8. Junio C HamanoNov 29, 2006
  9. Steven GrimmNov 29, 2006
  10. Johannes SchindelinNov 29, 2006
  11. Junio C HamanoNov 29, 2006
  12. xdl_merge(), was Re: [PATCH 0/2] Making "git commit" to mean "git commit -a".Johannes Schindelin, Nov 29, 2006
  13. Seth FalconNov 30, 2006
  14. Carl WorthNov 29, 2006
  15. Johannes SchindelinNov 29, 2006
  16. Junio C HamanoNov 30, 2006
  17. Junio C HamanoNov 30, 2006
  18. Steven GrimmNov 30, 2006
  19. Sam VilainNov 30, 2006
  20. Junio C HamanoNov 30, 2006
  21. Johannes SchindelinNov 30, 2006
  22. Linus TorvaldsNov 30, 2006
  23. Johannes SchindelinNov 30, 2006
  24. Andreas EricssonNov 30, 2006
  25. Linus TorvaldsNov 30, 2006
  26. Theodore TsoNov 30, 2006
  27. Linus TorvaldsNov 30, 2006
  28. Nicolas PitreNov 30, 2006
  29. Carl WorthNov 30, 2006
  30. Jakub NarebskiNov 30, 2006
  31. Carl WorthNov 30, 2006
  32. Andreas EricssonDec 1, 2006
  33. Han-Wen NienhuysDec 1, 2006
  34. Carl WorthNov 30, 2006
  35. Linus TorvaldsNov 30, 2006
  36. Nicolas PitreNov 30, 2006
  37. Linus TorvaldsNov 30, 2006
  38. Jakub NarebskiNov 30, 2006
  39. Carl WorthNov 30, 2006
  40. Michael K. EdwardsNov 30, 2006
  41. Carl WorthNov 30, 2006
  42. Jakub NarebskiNov 30, 2006
  43. Johannes SchindelinNov 30, 2006
  44. Josef WeidendorferNov 30, 2006
  45. Johannes SchindelinNov 30, 2006
  46. Nicolas PitreNov 30, 2006
  47. Nicolas PitreNov 30, 2006
  48. Junio C HamanoNov 30, 2006
  49. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  50. Alan ChandlerDec 1, 2006
  51. Junio C HamanoNov 30, 2006
  52. Nicolas PitreNov 30, 2006
  53. Junio C HamanoNov 30, 2006
  54. Linus TorvaldsNov 30, 2006
  55. Carl WorthDec 1, 2006
  56. Linus TorvaldsDec 1, 2006
  57. Carl WorthDec 1, 2006
  58. Linus TorvaldsDec 1, 2006
  59. Carl WorthDec 1, 2006
  60. Linus TorvaldsDec 1, 2006
  61. Carl WorthDec 1, 2006
  62. Michael K. EdwardsDec 1, 2006
  63. Junio C HamanoDec 1, 2006
  64. Jakub NarebskiDec 1, 2006
  65. Nicolas PitreDec 1, 2006
  66. Andreas EricssonDec 1, 2006
  67. Alan ChandlerDec 1, 2006
  68. Robert ShearmanNov 30, 2006
  69. Jakub NarebskiNov 30, 2006
  70. Shawn PearceDec 1, 2006
  71. Marco CostalbaDec 2, 2006
  72. Carl WorthNov 30, 2006
  73. Linus TorvaldsNov 30, 2006
  74. Daniel BarkalowNov 30, 2006
  75. Nicolas PitreNov 30, 2006
  76. Johannes SchindelinNov 30, 2006

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