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Re: first parent, commit graph layout, and pull merge direction

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
May 24, 2013, 16:26 UTC
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Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
> ... but I don't see why something small like that
> wouldn't make sense:
>
> The pull was not fast-forward, please either merge or rebase.

OK, I think I got what John was getting at and this single liner message is a good summary of it.

Instead of telling them "you cannot push this thing without losing history from the location you are pushing to; you need to become up to date with respect to them before pushing" upon seeing a non ff push failure, we can tell them "you cannot update your history to what the place you get new changes from has without losing your history; you need to integrate the two".

Initially I said limiting "git pull" to "--ff-only" by default did not make sense, but when we view it that way, I now see how such a default makes sense.

In another subthread, John Szakmeister mentioned that the "please 'git pull' first" message that a "push" gives when it stops due to non-ff nudges the users in a wrong direction, because they often take that 'git pull' too literally (e.g. 'pull --rebase' may be necessary in their project, not 'git pull<ENTER>').

The original message deliberately avoided mentioning 'git pull' for that exact reason, but in mid 2010 we made it worse. The log of that change says that it attempted to

    ... remains fuzzy to include "git pull", "git pull --rebase" and
    others, but directs the user to the simplest solution in the
    vast majority of cases.

but this thread shows that it did not work; the simplest solution was a wrong one. The message also may need to be rethought to complement this direction being proposed for "pull".

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Message 26 of 69 in “first parent, commit graph layout, and pull merge direction”
  1. Andreas KreyMay 22, 2013
  2. Junio C HamanoMay 22, 2013
  3. Andreas KreyMay 23, 2013
  4. John SzakmeisterMay 23, 2013
  5. Jeremy RosenMay 23, 2013
  6. Andreas KreyMay 23, 2013
  7. John KeepingMay 23, 2013
  8. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2013
  9. John KeepingMay 23, 2013
  10. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2013
  11. John KeepingMay 23, 2013
  12. Felipe ContrerasMay 23, 2013
  13. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2013
  14. Felipe ContrerasMay 23, 2013
  15. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2013
  16. Felipe ContrerasMay 23, 2013
  17. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2013
  18. Felipe ContrerasMay 23, 2013
  19. John KeepingMay 24, 2013
  20. John SzakmeisterMay 24, 2013
  21. Linus TorvaldsMay 24, 2013
  22. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2013
  23. Linus TorvaldsMay 24, 2013
  24. Felipe ContrerasMay 24, 2013
  25. Felipe ContrerasMay 24, 2013
  26. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2013
  27. Philip OakleyMay 24, 2013
  28. pull: require choice between rebase/merge on non-fast-forward pullJunio C Hamano, Jun 27, 2013
  29. W. Trevor KingJun 27, 2013
  30. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2013
  31. W. Trevor KingJun 28, 2013
  32. Matthieu MoyJun 28, 2013
  33. W. Trevor KingJun 28, 2013
  34. Matthieu MoyJun 28, 2013
  35. W. Trevor KingJun 28, 2013
  36. Fredrik GustafssonJun 27, 2013
  37. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2013
  38. W. Trevor KingJun 27, 2013
  39. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2013
  40. Matthieu MoyJun 27, 2013
  41. W. Trevor KingJun 28, 2013
  42. John KeepingJun 28, 2013
  43. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2013
  44. John KeepingJun 28, 2013
  45. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2013
  46. John KeepingJul 2, 2013
  47. fixup! pull: require choice between rebase/merge on non-fast-forward pullJohn Keeping, Jul 14, 2013
  48. Junio C HamanoJul 15, 2013
  49. Felipe ContrerasAug 28, 2013
  50. John KeepingJul 18, 2013
  51. Andreas SchwabJul 18, 2013
  52. Junio C HamanoJul 18, 2013
  53. pull: require choice between rebase/merge on non-fast-forward pullJunio C Hamano, Jul 18, 2013
  54. Eric SunshineJul 19, 2013
  55. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2013
  56. Eric SunshineJul 19, 2013
  57. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2013
  58. Eric SunshineJul 19, 2013
  59. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2013
  60. FlimmJan 22, 2014
  61. Andreas KreyMay 24, 2013
  62. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2013
  63. Andreas KreyMay 23, 2013
  64. Holger Hellmuth (IKS)May 24, 2013
  65. Andreas KreyMay 24, 2013
  66. Holger Hellmuth (IKS)May 24, 2013
  67. Andreas KreyMay 24, 2013
  68. Felipe ContrerasMay 23, 2013
  69. Andreas KreyMay 23, 2013

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