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Re: What's cooking in git.git (topics)

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Feb 17, 2008, 18:59 UTC
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Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
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> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> ...
>> * lt/dirstat (Tue Feb 12 17:06:58 2008 -0800) 2 commits
>>  - diff: make --dirstat binary-file safe
>>  + Add "--dirstat" for some directory statistics
>> 
>> The first one already in 'next' is the latest toy Linus showed
>> off in his 2.6.25-rc2 announcement.  The other one on top is a
>> rework to make it work more sensibly with a tree with binary
>> contents.
>
> Is this new one bytecount based rather than lines-changed based also
> for text files?
Short answer: Yes.

The issue in Linus's version is that the amount of change is defined to be "number of lines added and deleted" for text files while it is "number of bytes in preimage and postimage" for binary files. Summing them up and computing proportions among them is comparing apples and oranges.

If you used line-based amount-of-change for text and byte-based one for binary, you would be still comparing apples and oranges, and you are not solving anything. The scale used for all files has to be consistent.

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>> * br/gitweb (Fri Feb 8 14:38:04 2008 -0200) 1 commit
>>  + gitweb: Use the config file to set repository owner's name.
>> 
>> On hold per Jakub's reluctance.
> 
> It was tested by the author (Bruno Ribas) that it doesn't affect
> performance, although IMHO for a bit superficial test (1000 identical
> repositories, gitweb run as a script, dd or git-for-each-ref as an
> additional load).  I'd like to heard from larger gitweb deployments
> how it works with a webserver (ApacheBench or similar), with a real
> set of repositories, and perhaps in real load conditions... of course
> on test gitweb, not on live one.

I personally think the patch is Ok. It would not affect really large and loaded sites, because the top-level project list is unusable for them without caching like John 'Warthog9' Hawley does for k.org, due to other performance bottleneck (namely, "the last changed timestamp") anyway.

By the way, I think "real load conditions" and "test gitweb not live" are unfortunately mutually exclusive. If it is known to be "test", it will not attract the same set of "real" people as the real one.

> I also wonder if it would make sense to make it a feature,

It might make sense, but it would not probably not help much in practice. It is overengineering, and I think it is spending efforts in wrong place in the first place.

What I personally think the most important thing that should happen to gitweb is to help cleaning up and updating John's caching version that powers k.org, and update our version to that. John's version has seen a lot more real-life loads than any other installation of the vanilla version in git.git, and we should take advantage of his effort by slurping improvements from his. People who are both interested and have been involved in gitweb might want to form a "gitweb-ng strike force" group, and make a consolidated effort, just like msysgit folks do to port our mess to Windows ;-).

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>> * nd/dashless (Wed Nov 28 23:21:57 2007 +0700) 1 commit
>>  - Move all dashed-form commands to libexecdir
>>
>> Scheduled for 1.6.0.  I am not sure if we should merge this to
>> 'next' before 1.5.5.  Most active people will be on 'next' and
>> if we have this there, the resulting 1.5.5 release might end up
>> having issues that come from differences this one introduces.
>
> What about making separate libexecdir and moving _helper_ scripts
> (*--*) there first?

Why keep suggesting adding _more_ work, without any code nor discussion of how that would help?

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  1. Junio C HamanoFeb 3, 2008
  2. Johannes SchindelinFeb 3, 2008
  3. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2008
  4. Jakub NarebskiFeb 5, 2008
  5. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2008
  6. Junio C HamanoFeb 7, 2008
  7. Jeff KingFeb 7, 2008
  8. Lars HjemliFeb 7, 2008
  9. Jakub NarebskiFeb 7, 2008
  10. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2008
  11. Jakub NarebskiFeb 10, 2008
  12. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  13. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2008
  14. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2008
  15. Junio C HamanoFeb 12, 2008
  16. reflog-delete, was Re: What's cooking in git.git (topics)Johannes Schindelin, Feb 12, 2008
  17. Junio C HamanoFeb 17, 2008
  18. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2008
  19. Jakub NarebskiFeb 17, 2008
  20. Junio C HamanoFeb 17, 2008
  21. Jakub NarebskiFeb 17, 2008
  22. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2008
  23. Jakub NarebskiFeb 18, 2008
  24. Matthias KestenholzFeb 17, 2008
  25. Junio C HamanoFeb 17, 2008
  26. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2008
  27. [Announce] 'next' rewound and rebasedJunio C Hamano, Feb 17, 2008
  28. Junio C HamanoFeb 21, 2008
  29. Johannes SchindelinFeb 21, 2008
  30. Junio C HamanoFeb 21, 2008
  31. Brandon CaseyFeb 22, 2008
  32. 1/4 git-reflog: add option --rewrite to update reflog entries while expiringBrandon Casey, Feb 22, 2008
  33. reflog-delete: parse standard reflog optionsBrandon Casey, Feb 22, 2008
  34. Junio C HamanoFeb 22, 2008
  35. Brandon CaseyFeb 23, 2008
  36. Junio C HamanoFeb 23, 2008
  37. Junio C HamanoFeb 23, 2008
  38. Brandon CaseyFeb 23, 2008
  39. Junio C HamanoFeb 25, 2008
  40. Junio C HamanoFeb 28, 2008
  41. Junio C HamanoMar 1, 2008
  42. Shawn O. PearceMar 2, 2008
  43. Junio C HamanoMar 3, 2008
  44. Junio C HamanoMar 6, 2008
  45. Johannes SchindelinMar 6, 2008
  46. Junio C HamanoMar 8, 2008
  47. 2/4 refs.c: make close_ref() and commit_ref() non-staticBrandon Casey, Feb 22, 2008
  48. 3/4 git-reflog: add option --updateref to write the last reflog sha1 into the refBrandon Casey, Feb 22, 2008
  49. 4/4 git-stash: add new 'drop' subcommandBrandon Casey, Feb 22, 2008
  50. git-stash: add new 'pop' subcommandBrandon Casey, Feb 22, 2008

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