git/list[1] front-page[2] threads[3] people[4] search[5] about
 

Re: [PATCH 0/8] fix git-config with duplicate variable entries

From
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Nov 21, 2012, 19:46 UTC
Message-ID
<7vehjm20yu.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To
<20121121192738.GA16280@sigill.intra.peff.net>
Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
Show 15 quoted lines
>> The way for the Porcelain scripts to mimick the internal "last one
>> wins" has been to grab values out of --get-all and do the "last one
>> wins" themselves, and I agree that a mode that frees them from
>> having to worry about it is a good *addition*.  I would even say
>> that if we were designing "git config" plumbing without existing
>> users, it would be the only sensible behaviour for "--get".
>> 
>> But "git config --get" users have been promised to get errors on
>> duplicate values so far, so I have to say this needs to come with a
>> big red sign about API breakage.
>
> The problem is that scripts currently using "--get" are broken by
> duplicate entries in include files, whereas internal git handles them
> just fine.  Introducing a new switch means that everybody also has to
> start using it.
Not exactly.  There are three classes of people:
 - wrote scripts using --get; found out that --get barfs if you feed
   two or more of the same, and have long learned to accept it as a
   limitation and adjusted their configuration files to avoid it.
   They have been doing just fine and wouldn't benefit from this
   series at all.
 - wrote scripts using --get, relying on it barfing if fed zero
   (i.e. missing) or two or more (i.e. ambiguous), perhaps a way to
   keep their configuration files (arguably unnecessarily) clean.
   They are directly harmed by this series.
 - wrote scripts using --get-all and did the last-one-wins
   themselves.  They wouldn't benefit directly from this series,
   unless they are willing to spend a bit of time to remove their
   own last-one-wins logic and replace --get-all with --get (but the
   same effort is needed to migrate to --get-one).
 - wanted to write scripts using --get, but after finding out that
   it barfs if you feed two, gave up emulating the internal, without
   realizing that they could do so with --get-all.  They can now
   write their scripts without using --get-all.

The only people who benefit are from the last class; it does not matter if they have to write --get-one or --get.

Show 6 quoted lines
> That is not an excuse for breakage, of course, but only a motivation for
> considering it. And here is what I think mitigates that breakage:
>
>   1. If you are a script that cares about multiple values and choosing
>      one (whether last-one-wins or otherwise), you are already using
>      --get-all and are not affected.
Correct.
>   2. If you are a script that only wants to mimic how get retrieves
>      a single value, then this is a bug fix, as it brings "--get" in
>      line with git's internal use.

But by definition, no such script exists (if it used "--get", it didn't mimic the internal in the first place).

>   3. If you are a script that only wants a single value, but cares about
>      duplicates, you are already failing to notice them when the
>      duplicates are cross-file. That is, we already do "last one wins"
>      if an entry is found in ~/.gitconfig and .git/config.

Yeah, so the only ones that can be harmed is a config lint that uses the --get option with --file to make sure variables they know must be single value are indeed so, and they are not doing a thorough job, unless they are checking across files themselves, at which point they are better off using --get-all piped to "sort | uniq -c" or something. So breakages do not matter much for correctly written scripts.

> I would argue that anybody fetching standard git config variables (and
> not using --list or --get-all) falls into case (2) and is being fixed,
> as they will not otherwise match the behavior of git itself.

As people shove random stuff that git itself does not care about in their config files, they may not care, though.

> IOW, I do not see a legitimate use case for this, but see it as an extra
> check on broken config.
Yes, I agree with the latter half of that sentence.
Previous: Jeff KingNext: Jeff King
Message 20 of 25 in “The config include mechanism doesn't allow for overwriting”
  1. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 22, 2012
  2. Jeff KingOct 22, 2012
  3. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 23, 2012
  4. 0/8 fix git-config with duplicate variable entriesJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  5. 1/8 t1300: style updatesJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  6. Johannes SixtOct 24, 2012
  7. Jeff KingOct 24, 2012
  8. 1/8 t1300: style updatesJeff King, Oct 24, 2012
  9. 2/8 t1300: remove redundant testJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  10. 3/8 t1300: test "git config --get-all" more thoroughlyJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  11. 4/8 git-config: remove memory leak of key regexpJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  12. 5/8 git-config: fix regexp memory leaks on error conditionsJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  13. 6/8 git-config: collect values instead of immediately printingJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  14. 7/8 git-config: do not complain about duplicate entriesJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  15. 8/8 git-config: use git_config_with_optionsJeff King, Oct 23, 2012
  16. Johannes SixtOct 24, 2012
  17. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 24, 2012
  18. Junio C HamanoNov 20, 2012
  19. Jeff KingNov 21, 2012
  20. Junio C HamanoNov 21, 2012
  21. Jeff KingNov 21, 2012
  22. Junio C HamanoNov 21, 2012
  23. Joachim SchmitzNov 23, 2012
  24. John SzakmeisterOct 24, 2012
  25. Jeff KingOct 24, 2012

Read the whole thread, see it on lore, or plain text.

$ cat FOOTERMessages come from the public archive at lore.kernel.org/git, fetched every hour. The front page is chosen and written each morning by an AI editor and can be wrong; the threads themselves are the record. About and API. For agents: an MCP server at https://gitlist.dev/mcp, and any thread, story or person page as Markdown by adding .md to its URL (or sending Accept: text/markdown). Details in /llms.txt.