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Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Feb 5, 2013, 17:36 UTC
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Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:
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>> * I didn't see a response to Peff's convincing arguments that this
>> should be a client-side feature rather than a server-side feature [1].
>
> The client can't control the size of the ref advertisement.  That is
> the main motivation if I understood correctly.
The answer to this question is more nuanced.

With the current protocol, it is upload-pack who speaks first, so there is no way for the requestor to say "I am from an updated Git suite and understand how to tell you to give me limited set of refs", before upload-pack blasts 4MB of ref advertisement to it.

If the side that fetches is potentially interested in finding out any and all refs, then an alternative solution would be to break the current protocol, open a separate port and have upload-pack-2 listen to it, sit silently to let the requestor speak first when it gets connection to that port.

But if the primary thing you are interested in is to hide the references that:

 (1) the server side needs to keep track of for its own use; but
 (2) the requestors do not have to learn about from upload-pack,

we can do so without breaking older requestors. That is what the early part of this series is about. We can view the last patch to add the allow-tip-sha1-in-want as an icing on the cake.

It has the side effect of reducing the transfer overhead, because by hiding the internal refs, the server side will stop blasting 4MB of ref advertisements the requestors are not interested in, and that would be the primary observable outcome from the end-user's point of view (i.e. your "git pull --ff-only" will become a lot faster).

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Message 47 of 54 in “Hiding refs”
  1. 0/8 Hiding refsJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  2. 1/8 upload-pack: share more codeJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  3. 2/8 upload-pack: simplify request validationJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  4. 3/8 upload/receive-pack: allow hiding ref hierarchiesJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  5. Jeff KingFeb 5, 2013
  6. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2013
  7. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2013
  8. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2013
  9. 4/8 parse_fetch_refspec(): clarify the codeflow a bitJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  10. 5/8 fetch: use struct ref to represent refs to be fetchedJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  11. 6/8 upload-pack: optionally allow fetching from the tips of hidden refsJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  12. 7/8 fetch: fetch objects by their exact SHA-1 object namesJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  13. Jeff KingFeb 5, 2013
  14. Jeff KingFeb 5, 2013
  15. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2013
  16. 8/8 WIP: receive.allowupdatestohiddenJunio C Hamano, Jan 30, 2013
  17. Michael HaggertyFeb 5, 2013
  18. Jonathan NiederFeb 5, 2013
  19. Michael HaggertyFeb 5, 2013
  20. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2013
  21. Duy NguyenFeb 6, 2013
  22. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2013
  23. Jonathan NiederFeb 6, 2013
  24. Michael HaggertyFeb 6, 2013
  25. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2013
  26. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 6, 2013
  27. Junio C HamanoFeb 7, 2013
  28. Jeff KingFeb 7, 2013
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 7, 2013
  30. Junio C HamanoFeb 7, 2013
  31. Duy NguyenFeb 23, 2014
  32. Jeff KingMar 11, 2014
  33. Junio C HamanoMar 11, 2014
  34. Jeff KingMar 11, 2014
  35. Junio C HamanoMar 11, 2014
  36. Jeff KingMar 11, 2014
  37. Duy NguyenMar 14, 2014
  38. Shawn PearceMar 14, 2014
  39. Duy NguyenMar 14, 2014
  40. Shawn PearceMar 15, 2014
  41. Jeff KingMar 18, 2014
  42. Duy NguyenMar 18, 2014
  43. Duy NguyenMar 18, 2014
  44. Duy NguyenMar 15, 2014
  45. Jeff KingMar 18, 2014
  46. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2013
  47. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2013
  48. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2013
  49. Michael HaggertyFeb 6, 2013
  50. Jonathan NiederFeb 6, 2013
  51. Michael HaggertyFeb 6, 2013
  52. Jed BrownFeb 7, 2013
  53. Junio C HamanoFeb 9, 2013
  54. Jed BrownFeb 10, 2013

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