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Re: [PATCH v2] fetch: align new ref summary printout in UTF-8 locales

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Sep 6, 2012, 18:08 UTC
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Torsten Bögershausen <tboegi@web.de> writes:
> I try to re-phrase my question:
>
> Do installations still exist which use e.g. BIG5 or any other
> multi byte encoding which is not UTF-8?
Yes.
> Do we want to support other encodings than ASCII or UTF-8?
> (Because then the screen width needs to be calculate different, I think)
That depends on who "we" are and what timeframe you have in mind.

Do our developers care about these encodings so much that we would reject "ASCCI/UTF-8 only" patch and wait until we enhance it to do the right thing for other encodings that we do not use ourselves? No. That does not make any sense, especially when we know we will not have a good test coverage on the additional parts that we will not be using ourselves.

"This change only helps people with ASCII or UTF-8 and does not help others" alone is never a valid reason to reject a change, but we still try to be nicer to "others" that may come after we leave this topic behind by doing a few things:

 - If the change will make things worse than it currently is for
   "others", we would try to minimize the regression for them.
 - If the change will make the code harder to update later to
   enhance with additional change to support "others", we would try
   to anticipate what kind of changes are needed on top, and
   structure the code in such a way that future changes can be made
   cleanly.

For the first point, for multi-byte encodings (e.g. ISO-2022), the display columns and byte length do not match and in general byte length is longer than the display columns in the current code. With the current code that measures the required columns across elements by taking the maximum of byte length, they will see wrong number of filler, so they are already getting a wrong alignment. With the "UTF-8 only" change, the required columns and the filler will be calculated by assuming that the string is in UTF-8, which may make the computation off in a different way, and if we underestimate the display columns for a string, they may see the strings truncated, which is bad.

So as long as gettext_width() punts and returns strlen() for a malformed UTF-8, it would be OK [*1*].

For the second point, I think the API "here is a string, give me the number of display columns it will occupy, as I am interested in aligning them" is a good abstraction that can be later enhanced to other encodings fairly easily, so I do not see a problem in the patch that goes in that direction.

[Footnote]

*1* If the patch used utf_strwidth() (which I didn't bother to go back and check, though), it should be OK. The underlying utf8_width() will reject a malformed UTF-8 sequence and the code falls back to strlen().

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  1. fetch: align new ref summary printout in UTF-8 localesNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Sep 3, 2012
  2. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2012
  3. Johannes SixtSep 3, 2012
  4. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2012
  5. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuySep 4, 2012
  6. fetch: align new ref summary printout in UTF-8 localesNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Sep 4, 2012
  7. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuySep 12, 2012
  8. Junio C HamanoSep 12, 2012
  9. Torsten BögershausenSep 12, 2012
  10. Torsten BögershausenSep 5, 2012
  11. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuySep 6, 2012
  12. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuySep 6, 2012
  13. Torsten BögershausenSep 6, 2012
  14. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2012

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