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Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default

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Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>
Date
Sep 8, 2013, 22:46 UTC
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From: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:10 PM
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> Richard Hansen <rhansen@bbn.com> writes:
>
>> On 2013-09-07 22:41, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which can be solved by adding the above "fail" option, and then
>>>> renaming them to "pull.integrate" and "branch.<name>.integrate" to
>>>> clarify what these variables are about (it is no longer "do you
>>>> rebase or not---if you choose not to rebase, by definition you are
>>>> going to merge", as there is a third choice to "fail"), while
>>>> retaining "pull.rebase" and "branch.<name>.rebase" as a deprecated
>>>> synonym.
>>>
>>> All these names are completely unintuitive. First of all, why
>>> "integrate"? Integrate what to what? And then, why "fail"? Fail on
>>> what circumstances? Always?
>>>
>>> My proposal that does:
>>>
>>>   pull.mode = merge/rebase/merge-ff-only
>>>
>>> Is way more intuitive.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> What about something like:
>>
>>     pull.mergeoptions (defaults to --ff-only)
>>     pull.rebaseoptions (defaults to empty?  --preserve-merges?)
>>     branch.<name>.pull.mergeoptions (defaults to pull.mergeoptions)
>>     branch.<name>.pull.rebaseoptions (defaults to pull.rebaseoptions)
>
> As "pull" has two distinct phases "fetch" and "merge/rebase", your
> mergeoptions/rebaseoptions is much better than "mode", which does
> not tell which phase of "pull" the mode refers to. It is clear that
> they apply to the process to integrate the history obtained from
> the other side and your own history into one history.
>
> But it does not help Philip's case, if I understand correctly, where
> running "git pull" on some branches is always a mistake
Not quite always, it's when it won't fast forward
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>                                     and the user
> wants it to stop at "fetch the history and objects needed to
> complete the history from the other side" phase without proceeding
> to the "then integrate the history from the other side and the
> history of your branch into one" step,
Yes, it/Git should stop and wait for instructions...
>                   which may be done with either
> merge or rebase.

Here I would typically rebase onto an adjusted destination, e.g. onto pu, or maybe next, rather than master (or vice versa depending on expectations). That is its a feature branch that needs to decide what it's on top of (well, I need to decide ;-)

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>            Even if we ignore that "always fail, do not do
> anything" use case, your two seemingly independent "mergeoptions"
> and "rebaseoptions" do not tell us which one is preferred between
> merge and rebase.  A single
>
>    pull.<someoption> = rebase | merge [| always-fail]
>
> makes that choice in a clear way, I think.

or 'fail on non-ff' (which may or may not be the users, or Git's default, as per the series title ;-)

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>
> Regarding the verb "integrate".
>
> We used to explain "pull" is a "fetch" followed by a "merge".  With
> more people using "git pull --rebase", the word "merge" used in that
> explanation of "pull" stopped being generic enough.  Simplarily the
> "upstream branch" of local branch X is "what you fetch and merge to
> update the branch X" but that 'merge' can be 'rebase'.  We needed a
> verb to call the process of integrate the two histories into one.
>
> "git pull --help" since 153d7265 (pull: change the description to
> "integrate" changes, 2013-07-07) uses that verb [*1*].
>
> And that is where the name of the single configuration to pick how
> to integrate the history obtained by the first phase of "pull" came
> from.
>
>
> [Footnote]
>
> *1* I suspect that there may still be places in the documentation
> that have not been updated since the days back when the only valid
> way to integrate two lines of histories was to merge, and updating
> them may be a low-hanging fruit. Hint, hint.
>
>

-- Philip

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Message 81 of 84 in “Reject non-ff pulls by default”
  1. 0/3 Reject non-ff pulls by defaultFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
  2. 1/3 merge: simplify ff-only optionFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
  3. 2/3 t: replace pulls with mergesFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
  4. 3/3 pull: reject non-ff pulls by defaultFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
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  6. Felipe ContrerasSep 3, 2013
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  39. Richard HansenSep 9, 2013
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  42. Philip OakleySep 9, 2013
  43. Felipe ContrerasSep 9, 2013
  44. John KeepingSep 10, 2013
  45. Matthieu MoySep 9, 2013
  46. Junio C HamanoSep 10, 2013
  47. Felipe ContrerasSep 9, 2013
  48. Matthieu MoySep 10, 2013
  49. Felipe ContrerasSep 11, 2013
  50. Matthieu MoySep 11, 2013
  51. Felipe ContrerasSep 13, 2013
  52. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2013
  53. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2013
  54. Philip OakleySep 4, 2013
  55. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2013
  56. John KeepingSep 5, 2013
  57. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2013
  58. John KeepingSep 5, 2013
  59. Jonathan NiederSep 6, 2013
  60. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2013
  61. John KeepingSep 7, 2013
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  63. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  64. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  65. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  66. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  67. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  68. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  69. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  70. John SzakmeisterSep 5, 2013
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  72. John SzakmeisterSep 5, 2013
  73. Richard HansenSep 5, 2013
  74. Philip OakleySep 5, 2013
  75. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2013
  76. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2013
  77. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  78. Richard HansenSep 8, 2013
  79. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2013
  80. Richard HansenSep 8, 2013
  81. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  82. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  83. Ramkumar RamachandraSep 8, 2013
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