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Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default

From
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Sep 9, 2013, 20:04 UTC
Message-ID
<20130909200438.GD14021@sigill.intra.peff.net>
In-Reply-To
<20130908100351.GI2582@serenity.lan>
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 11:03:52AM +0100, John Keeping wrote:
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> > I know those are all balanced by some advantages of rebasing, but I also
> > think they are things that can be troublesome for a user who does not
> > fully grok the rebase process. I'm just wondering if we should mention
> > both, but steer people towards merging as the safer alternative (you
> > might have ugly history, but you are less likely to create a mess with
> > duplicate commits or badly-resolved conflicts).
> 
> The really correct thing to do here is to encourage a feature branch
> workflow, but in my experience people are happier to walk through a
> rebase than to switch over to feature branches completely.
> 
> An alternative pull mode would be:
> 
>     git reset --keep @{u} &&
>     git merge @{-1}
> 
> which gets a sensible history shape without any of your disadvantages
> above.  But that didn't go anywhere last time it came up [1] [2].

FWIW, that approach makes some sense to me. De-coupling for a moment the idea of "what is the default" from "what are the options", it seems like doing a reverse-merge would be a good option to have in the toolbox.

It would also have other uses beyond "git pull". For example, in development of GitHub itself, we use topic branches. But before merging them to master, we often test-deploy the topic to the live site. Before doing so, you have to merge the topic with the latest master to make sure you are not un-deploying anybody else's recently graduated topics.

You can do so by creating a temporary merge branch and deploying that, or you can simply merge master back into the topic. We generally choose the latter, because it leaves any conflict resolution in an obvious place (and doesn't need repeating).

-Peff
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Message 26 of 84 in “Reject non-ff pulls by default”
  1. 0/3 Reject non-ff pulls by defaultFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
  2. 1/3 merge: simplify ff-only optionFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
  3. 2/3 t: replace pulls with mergesFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
  4. 3/3 pull: reject non-ff pulls by defaultFelipe Contreras, Aug 31, 2013
  5. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2013
  6. Felipe ContrerasSep 3, 2013
  7. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2013
  8. Felipe ContrerasSep 3, 2013
  9. John KeepingSep 4, 2013
  10. Jeff KingSep 4, 2013
  11. John KeepingSep 4, 2013
  12. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  13. Jeff KingSep 8, 2013
  14. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  15. Jeff KingSep 8, 2013
  16. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  17. Jeff KingSep 8, 2013
  18. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  19. Jeff KingSep 8, 2013
  20. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  21. Jeff KingSep 8, 2013
  22. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  23. Jeff KingSep 9, 2013
  24. Felipe ContrerasSep 9, 2013
  25. John KeepingSep 8, 2013
  26. Jeff KingSep 9, 2013
  27. brian m. carlsonSep 8, 2013
  28. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  29. brian m. carlsonSep 9, 2013
  30. Felipe ContrerasSep 9, 2013
  31. Felipe ContrerasSep 9, 2013
  32. brian m. carlsonSep 9, 2013
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  34. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2013
  35. Jeff KingSep 9, 2013
  36. John KeepingSep 9, 2013
  37. Jeff KingSep 9, 2013
  38. John KeepingSep 9, 2013
  39. Richard HansenSep 9, 2013
  40. Matthieu MoySep 9, 2013
  41. Jeff KingSep 9, 2013
  42. Philip OakleySep 9, 2013
  43. Felipe ContrerasSep 9, 2013
  44. John KeepingSep 10, 2013
  45. Matthieu MoySep 9, 2013
  46. Junio C HamanoSep 10, 2013
  47. Felipe ContrerasSep 9, 2013
  48. Matthieu MoySep 10, 2013
  49. Felipe ContrerasSep 11, 2013
  50. Matthieu MoySep 11, 2013
  51. Felipe ContrerasSep 13, 2013
  52. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2013
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  54. Philip OakleySep 4, 2013
  55. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2013
  56. John KeepingSep 5, 2013
  57. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2013
  58. John KeepingSep 5, 2013
  59. Jonathan NiederSep 6, 2013
  60. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2013
  61. John KeepingSep 7, 2013
  62. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  63. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  64. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  65. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  66. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  67. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  68. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  69. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  70. John SzakmeisterSep 5, 2013
  71. John KeepingSep 5, 2013
  72. John SzakmeisterSep 5, 2013
  73. Richard HansenSep 5, 2013
  74. Philip OakleySep 5, 2013
  75. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2013
  76. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2013
  77. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  78. Richard HansenSep 8, 2013
  79. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2013
  80. Richard HansenSep 8, 2013
  81. Philip OakleySep 8, 2013
  82. Felipe ContrerasSep 8, 2013
  83. Ramkumar RamachandraSep 8, 2013
  84. Greg TroxelSep 5, 2013

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