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Re: [PATCH] Support ent:relative_path

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DHDana How <danahow@gmail.com>
Date
May 4, 2007, 18:23 UTC
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On 5/4/07, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net> wrote:
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> Johannes Sixt <J.Sixt@eudaptics.com> writes:
>
> > Alex Riesen wrote:
> >> On 5/4/07, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > My preference is (2), (3) and then (1), but I do not have
> >> > offhand a suggestion for a good metacharacter we could use.
> >>
> >> "./" :)
> >
> > +1, without the :)
> > and ../ should DWIM, too.
>
> I think these feel more or less natural (except that we do not
> say ":/fullpath" and instead say ":fullpath" which is
> unfortunate).
>
> In the hindsight, if we had the perfect vision into the future,
> we would have made <path> relative to where you are when we
> initially did "<something>:<path>", with obvious semantics for
> things like "<something>:../<path>" and "<something>:/<path>".
>
> We didn't.  Further, we made a mistake to make :/ to mean
> something completely unrelated.  My bad.
>
> So I think "./" is the best compromise in the meantime.
>
> With your suggestion, we can train people's fingers to type "./"
> now, and perhaps later in one of those big feature release like
> the 1.5.0 was, we could switch to "default to relative".
>
> At the same time of that big "UI correction", we could make
> "<something>:/<path>" to mean "full path in commit (or
> index/stage) no matter where I am".
>
> The current ":/<string>" is about going back, looking for the
> string, so it should not have used '/'; instead it should have
> been "<something>:?<string>".  Maybe we could fix it by start
> accepting ":?" now (in addition to ":/"), give a big fat warning
> about ":/" going to mean a different thing, and encouraging
> users to use the question-mark form, in preparation for the big
> "UI correction".
>
> Do people like that plan?
>
> (soon after 1.5.2)
>
>  - start accepting "<something>:./<path>" as "relative to where I am".
>
>  - start accepting "<something>:?<string>" as "look back to find
>    the string".
>
>  - clearly explain the plan and prepare the users.
>
> (a big release in the future, perhaps 1.6.0)
>
>  - "<something>:<path>" becomes relative to where you are.
>  - stop "<something>:/<string>" and start "<something>:/<fullpath>".

I will resubmit the patch following Junio's plan. It will include the "1.6.0" features but disabled.

I would just request that we expedite, if possible, at least the later switch from "<something>:/<string>" to "<something>:/<fullpath>", since with the patch _and_ the latter behavior enabled, scripts can be updated to always insert "./" or "/" and their intent will always be clear.

Thanks,
-- 
Dana L. How  danahow@gmail.com  +1 650 804 5991 cell
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  1. Support ent:relative_pathDana How, May 4, 2007
  2. Dana HowMay 4, 2007
  3. Junio C HamanoMay 4, 2007
  4. Dana HowMay 4, 2007
  5. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  6. Dana HowMay 4, 2007
  7. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  8. Dana HowMay 4, 2007
  9. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  10. Dana HowMay 4, 2007
  11. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  12. Johannes SchindelinMay 4, 2007
  13. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  14. Johannes SixtMay 4, 2007
  15. Junio C HamanoMay 4, 2007
  16. Dana HowMay 4, 2007
  17. Johannes SchindelinMay 4, 2007
  18. Junio C HamanoMay 4, 2007
  19. Johannes SchindelinMay 4, 2007
  20. Junio C HamanoMay 4, 2007
  21. Johannes SchindelinMay 4, 2007
  22. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  23. Jakub NarebskiMay 4, 2007
  24. Junio C HamanoMay 5, 2007
  25. Dana HowMay 5, 2007
  26. Jakub NarebskiMay 5, 2007
  27. Junio C HamanoMay 5, 2007
  28. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007

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