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Re: [PATCH] git-tag man: when to use lightweight or annotated tags

From
Daniele Segato <daniele.segato@gmail.com>
Date
Jul 26, 2013, 17:19 UTC
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On 07/26/2013 04:51 PM, Marc Branchaud wrote:
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> On 13-07-26 04:46 AM, Daniele Segato wrote:
>>  From 34fdcb56e5784699ffa327ebfcd2c5cd99b61d2d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Daniele Segato <daniele.segato@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:33:18 +0200
>> Subject: [PATCH] git-tag man: when to use lightweight or annotated tags
>
> When sending a patch to the list it's not necessary to include these headers,
> as the git tools will extract them from the email itself.
>
> Also, when sending a revision to a previously posted patch it's customary to
> include a revision number, e.g. "[PATCHv2]".
Thanks, I'll try to do the right thing with the next patch.

By the way which is your role in the community? Don't want to be rude, I just don't know who I'm talking about :) the documentation maintainer?

Thanks for the help anyway.
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>> diff --git a/Documentation/git-tag.txt b/Documentation/git-tag.txt
>> index 22894cb..5c6284e 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/git-tag.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/git-tag.txt
>> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ to delete, list or verify tags.
>>   Unless `-f` is given, the named tag must not yet exist.
>>
>>   If one of `-a`, `-s`, or `-u <key-id>` is passed, the command
>> -creates a 'tag' object, and requires a tag message.  Unless
>> +creates a 'tag' object called 'Annotated tag', and requires a tag message.
>
> 1) Don't capitalize "annotated" -- it's not capitalized anywhere else in the
> text.  The same goes for "lightweight".
Ok
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>
> 2) I find the phrasing here awkward.  The important thing to convey is that
> "annotated tag" is a synonym for "tag object".  The proposed text implies
> that there can be other kinds of tag objects that are not annotated tags, but
> I don't think that's true.  I've mulled over different ways of introducing
> the "annotated tag" term here, but I can't come up with a succinct way to do
> it.  I think it's better to just introduce the term later.
>
Ok, English is not my native language so no surprise it sound awkward ;)
I'll follow your suggestion here and move everything later.
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>> Unless
>>   `-m <msg>` or `-F <file>` is given, an editor is started for the user to type
>>   in the tag message.
>>
>> @@ -36,6 +36,11 @@ are absent, `-a` is implied.
>>   Otherwise just a tag reference for the SHA-1 object name of the commit
>> object is
>>   created (i.e. a lightweight tag).
>>
>> +'Annotated' and 'Lightweight' tags are not the same thing for git and you
>> shouldn't
>> +mix them up. Annotated tags are meant for release while lightweight tags are
>> +meant for private or temporary object labels. Most git commands only consider
>> +Annotated tags by default.
>> +
>
> I'm sorry, but I feel this misses the mark.
>
> It's redundant to say the tag types are not the same thing, since the fact
> that they have different names already implies that.  Also, to me the
> admonition "you shouldn't mix them up" is just a scary warning that conveys
> no helpful information.
>
> Furthermore, I think simply stating that the tag types are meant for
> particular uses without explaining why is too glib.  Although it may be
> natural in your circumstances to think of the tag types rigidly, I do not
> think that's true for all git users and I don't think the documentation
> should assume there's a One True Way to use tags.
>
> The text should give readers enough information to decide for themselves how
> they want to use the different types of tags.  That's why I included the
> annotated tag's contents in my suggestion, so that readers could figure out
> which tag type best meets their needs.
>
> What you've proposed is a step in the right direction, but I think you need
> to go further.
>
> 		M.
>

I tried to take into account everything you said to me and rewrite the patch, following this message.

Regards, Daniele

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  1. Daniele SegatoJul 24, 2013
  2. Junio C HamanoJul 24, 2013
  3. git-tag man: when to use lightweight or annotated tagsDaniele Segato, Jul 25, 2013
  4. Marc BranchaudJul 25, 2013
  5. Daniele SegatoJul 26, 2013
  6. Daniele SegatoJul 26, 2013
  7. Marc BranchaudJul 26, 2013
  8. Daniele SegatoJul 26, 2013
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  11. Jonathan NiederJul 26, 2013
  12. Daniele SegatoJul 29, 2013
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  14. Marc BranchaudJul 26, 2013
  15. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2013
  16. Daniele SegatoJul 29, 2013
  17. Daniele SegatoJul 27, 2013
  18. Philip OakleyJul 27, 2013
  19. Stefan BellerJul 27, 2013
  20. Daniele SegatoJul 29, 2013
  21. Marc BranchaudJul 26, 2013
  22. Daniele SegatoJul 29, 2013
  23. Daniele SegatoJul 25, 2013

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