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Re: Avery Pennarun's git-subtree?

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Jens Lehmann <jens.lehmann@web.de>
Date
Jul 23, 2010, 17:11 UTC
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Am 23.07.2010 18:05, schrieb Bryan Larsen:
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> On 10-07-23 11:10 AM, Jens Lehmann wrote:
>> That is just one example. Another one is code shared between
>> different repos (think: libraries) where you want to make sure that
>> a bugfix in the library made in project A will make it to the shared
>> code repo and thus doesn't have to be fixed again by projects B to X.
>> This was one of the reasons we preferred submodules over subtrees
>> in our evaluation, because there is no incentive to push fixes inside
>> the subtree back to its own repo like there is when using submodules.
> 
> But you stated above that each project has its own fork of the library.   So there's no special incentive to push changes from the fork back to its master repo.

When you are not working on your own, it is preferable to be able to get changes upstream into a submodules repo to share them. So if you can do that (either via push or patches sent by email or whatever), then use it's URL directly (and then you have the incentive that fixes get pushed, which is nice). Or you can't, then use a fork reachable by the people you work with (then you still can see all fixes made by your group in the forked repo and can decide to push them upstream). Then pushing fixes back to the original repo is a matter of courtesy, as it is with every other work flow I know. And I think that is just the same thing we all do with plain git repos when working with others: If you can push, you use it directly to clone from, if you can't, you fork it.

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> In my experience, it's possible to make it usable if and only if:
> 
> 1.  you have a small team
> 2.  all of whom are very comfortable with git
> 3.  changes inside submodules are either infrequent or only happen in a single direction
> 4.  the project is not public/open source
>
> I think #4 is the killer reason why submodules don't work.  It works fine if the submodule is fairly independent, but if you have a patch to the submodule that was created for and in the context of the superproject, things get really annoying really quickly.
What is the problem with the "forked repo" solution for #4?
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  1. Bryan LarsenJul 21, 2010
  2. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 21, 2010
  3. Avery PennarunJul 21, 2010
  4. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 21, 2010
  5. Avery PennarunJul 21, 2010
  6. Avery PennarunJul 21, 2010
  7. Jens LehmannJul 21, 2010
  8. Avery PennarunJul 22, 2010
  9. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 21, 2010
  10. Bryan LarsenJul 22, 2010
  11. Jakub NarebskiJul 24, 2010
  12. Avery PennarunJul 22, 2010
  13. Jonathan NiederJul 22, 2010
  14. Avery PennarunJul 22, 2010
  15. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 22, 2010
  16. Avery PennarunJul 22, 2010
  17. Jens LehmannJul 23, 2010
  18. Eugene SajineJul 26, 2010
  19. Elijah NewrenJul 22, 2010
  20. Avery PennarunJul 22, 2010
  21. Chris WebbJul 23, 2010
  22. Avery PennarunJul 23, 2010
  23. Jens LehmannJul 23, 2010
  24. Avery PennarunJul 23, 2010
  25. Jens LehmannJul 23, 2010
  26. Jens LehmannJul 23, 2010
  27. Bryan LarsenJul 23, 2010
  28. Jens LehmannJul 23, 2010
  29. Bryan LarsenJul 23, 2010
  30. Avery PennarunJul 23, 2010
  31. Jens LehmannJul 25, 2010
  32. Avery PennarunJul 27, 2010
  33. Jens LehmannJul 27, 2010
  34. Marc BranchaudJul 23, 2010
  35. Avery PennarunJul 23, 2010
  36. skillzero@gmail.comJul 24, 2010
  37. Avery PennarunJul 24, 2010
  38. skillzero@gmail.comJul 24, 2010
  39. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyJul 25, 2010
  40. Jakub NarebskiJul 28, 2010
  41. Jakub NarebskiJul 26, 2010
  42. Marc BranchaudJul 26, 2010
  43. Linus TorvaldsJul 26, 2010
  44. Bryan LarsenJul 26, 2010
  45. Linus TorvaldsJul 26, 2010
  46. Avery PennarunJul 27, 2010
  47. Junio C HamanoJul 27, 2010
  48. Avery PennarunJul 27, 2010
  49. Junio C HamanoJul 27, 2010
  50. Jens LehmannJul 27, 2010
  51. Jakub NarebskiJul 26, 2010
  52. Avery PennarunJul 27, 2010
  53. Marc BranchaudJul 28, 2010
  54. Jakub NarebskiJul 28, 2010
  55. Sverre RabbelierJul 24, 2010
  56. Jakub NarebskiJul 26, 2010
  57. Avery PennarunJul 27, 2010
  58. Marc BranchaudJul 26, 2010

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