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Re: git guidance

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PSPhillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Date
Dec 4, 2007, 22:21 UTC
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Al Boldi wrote:
> Judging an idea, based on a flawed implementation, doesn't prove that the 
> idea itself is flawed.

It isn't the implementation that is flawed, it is the idea. The entire point of a change control system is that you explicitly define change sets and add comments to the set. The filesystem was designed to allow changes to be made willy-nilly. If your goal is to perform change control only with filesystem semantics, then you have a non starter as their goals are opposing. Requiring an explicit command command is hardly burdensome, and otherwise, a git tree is perfectly transparent to non git aware tools.

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> Sure, you wouldn't want to change the git-engine update semantics, as that 
> sits on the server and handles all users.  But what the git model is 
> currently missing is a client manager.  Right now, this is being worked 
> around by replicating the git tree on the client, which still doesn't 
> provide the required transparency.

It isn't missing a client manager, it was explicitly designed to not have one, at least not as a distinct entity from a server, because it does not use a client/server architecture. This is very much by design, not a work around.

What transparency are you requiring here? You can transparently read your git tree with all non git aware tools, what other meaning of transparency is there?

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> IOW, git currently only implements the server-side use-case, but fails to 
> deliver on the client-side.  By introducing a git-client manager that 
> handles the transparency needs of a single user, it should be possible to 
> clearly isolate update semantics for both the client and the server, each 
> handling their specific use-case.

Any talk of client or server makes no sense since git does not use a client/server model. If you wish to use a centralized repository, then git can be set up to transparently push/pull to/from said repository if you wish via hooks or cron jobs.

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Message 4 of 25 in “Re: git guidance”
  1. Jing XueNov 29, 2007
  2. Linus TorvaldsNov 29, 2007
  3. Al BoldiDec 1, 2007
  4. Phillip SusiDec 4, 2007
  5. Al BoldiDec 7, 2007
  6. Andreas EricssonDec 6, 2007
  7. Al BoldiDec 7, 2007
  8. Johannes SchindelinDec 6, 2007
  9. Al BoldiDec 7, 2007
  10. Andreas EricssonDec 7, 2007
  11. Al BoldiDec 7, 2007
  12. Jakub NarebskiDec 7, 2007
  13. Al BoldiDec 7, 2007
  14. valdis.kletnieks@vt.eduDec 7, 2007
  15. Luke LuDec 7, 2007
  16. Al BoldiDec 8, 2007
  17. valdis.kletnieks@vt.eduDec 8, 2007
  18. Al BoldiDec 8, 2007
  19. Johannes SchindelinDec 8, 2007
  20. Andreas EricssonDec 7, 2007
  21. david@lang.hmDec 7, 2007
  22. Björn SteinbrinkDec 7, 2007
  23. inotify-commit, was Re: git guidanceJohannes Schindelin, Aug 28, 2009
  24. Phillip SusiDec 6, 2007
  25. Martin LanghoffDec 8, 2007

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