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Re: Large delays in mailing list delivery?

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TGThomas Guyot-Sionnest <thomas@guyot-sionnest.net>
Date
Dec 4, 2021, 16:51 UTC
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On 2021-12-03 14:58, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 11:52:58AM -0800, Elijah Newren wrote:
>> Are there some rather large delays in mailing list delivery these
>> days?  Anyone know who to contact to investigate?  [*]
> The right person to contact is postmaster@vger.kernel.org, however I can
> actually answer your question (despite not actually being in charge of
> vger.kernel.org). Periodically, Gmail decides that there's just too much
> incoming mail for some accounts and will arbitrarily delay delivery by
> returning a "this account is receiving too much mail, please try later."
>
> I am willing to bet that this is what happened to you.

I have already contacted postmaster and they are aware, however you add very good point. Somehow I knew it but it's the way you put it that made me realize: the emails are sent in bulk to gmail (to many or all recipients for a single copy at once). The mail header even shows this, listing the first recipient followed by "+ 99 others". If it's delayed for all because of a single recipient that can only be because the 4xx error is returned at the end of the DATA command (rather than on a specific RCPT TO command), so no way for the sender to retry that single faulty address alone later.

I'm not sure if their software allows it but I suggested sending to a single recipient at a time for gmail, that would solve the issue.

In the meantime what I did is switch my subscription to another email using a forwarder address on a domain I own - I still haven't received all the backlog but at least I'm getting new posts timely now.

Regards,

-- Thomas

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Message 3 of 12 in “Large delays in mailing list delivery?”
  1. Elijah NewrenDec 3, 2021
  2. Konstantin RyabitsevDec 3, 2021
  3. Thomas Guyot-SionnestDec 4, 2021
  4. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 3, 2021
  5. Konstantin RyabitsevDec 3, 2021
  6. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 3, 2021
  7. Jeff KingDec 3, 2021
  8. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 6, 2021
  9. Eric WongDec 6, 2021
  10. Using public-inbox+lei+Emacs+mu+mu4e (was: Large delays in mailing list delivery?)Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2022
  11. Eric WongFeb 7, 2022
  12. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 7, 2021

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