Re: Using public-inbox+lei+Emacs+mu+mu4e (was: Large delays in mailing list delivery?)
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- Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
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- Feb 7, 2022, 21:27 UTC
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- <20220207212724.GA9233@dcvr>
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- <220202.86leyt8uly.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 06 2021, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Dec 03 2021, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 09:02:48PM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> >> >> When I've experienced delays (sometimes of half a day or more) both
> >> >> https://public-inbox.org/git/ and https://lore.kernel.org/git/ have been
> >> >> updated.
> >> >
> >> > Btw, you can source lore.kernel.org straight into your gmail inbox. :)
> >> >
> >> > https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/lore-lei-part-1-getting-started
> >> > https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/lore-lei-part-2-now-with-imap
> >> >
> >> > Or, you can read it via nntp://nntp.lore.kernel.org/.
> >>
> >> [CC'd meta@public-inbox.org, probably best to move this thread over
> >> there sooner than later, but CC'ing git@ still in case this is
> >> interesting to others]
> >>
> >> I poked a bit at setting this up but couldn't find from building
> >> public-inbox.org & trying to page through the docs how I'd get from an
> >> existing public-inbox.org/git/ checkout to a local Maildir.
> >
> > Existing, public-inboxes can be set as "externals" and managed
> > via {add,forget,ls}-external sub-commands:
> >
> > # for locally-cloned inboxes:
> > public-inbox-index /path/to/existing/inbox
> > lei add-external /path/to/existing/inbox
> >
> > # relies on curl, memoizes data downloaded for each search:
> > lei add-external https://yhbt.net/lore/git
> >
> > Local externals will be included by every "lei q" invocation;
> > HTTP(S) ones require "lei q --remote"
> >
> > If you only want to use an external as a one-off without adding
> > it, the -I/--include and -O/--only flags are useful:
> >
> > lei q -O https://yhbt.net/lore/git -o /tmp/results SEARCH_TERMS
> >
> >> If you could share some recipe or a pointer to the right docs for that
> >> that would be much appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > lei-overview(7) manpage documents some things, at least:
> > https://public-inbox.org/lei-overview.html Patches welcome :>
> >
> > IMHO lei still kinda sucks, and I probably won't have time to
> > work on it for a bit :<
>
> Thanks. I finally got around to setting this up.
>
> The above instructions didn't quite work for me, but here's what I did
> (in the form of a script lifted from a screen(1) config I've
> got). Indented with un-indented comments. The "stuff" is screen's way of
> "run this command" (or well, input these characters):
>
> I had a ~/g/git-ml clone already, but this makes one:
>
> stuff "cd ~/g/git-ml || git clone https://public-inbox.org/git ~/g/git-ml^M"Wait, lack of --mirror or --bare for git-clone on any public-inbox is a big mistake in terms of inode+disk use
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> The initial index: > > ## This will create a .git/publici-inbox in ~/g/git-ml. Takes a while > ## the first time. > stuff "time public-inbox-index -v \$PWD^M" > > I fiddled with this for a bit because it refused to work, turns out it > was missing the .git at the end, i.e. it expected a bare repo[1]: > > ## When we add the lei external it *must* have the ".git" part, > ## because it'll try to find the "public-inbox" folder at wherever we > ## point it. > stuff "test -d ~/.config/lei || lei add-external ~/g/git-ml/.git^M"
Yeah, public-inbox has never supported non-bare usage.
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> A bit of a UX wart not to be able to specify no --limit, or maybe I'm > missing a way: > > ## The one-off massive import of the Git ML. TODO: No way to specify > ## an infinite limit? Not --no-limit or --limit=0. > stuff "test -d ~/Maildir/lei-q-git-ml || time lei q --limit=999999999 -v -o ~/Maildir/lei-q-git-ml l:git.vger.kernel.org^M"
Oops. --no-limit or --limit=0 or --limit=-1 support will be added at some point...
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> The initial indexing: > > ## After the one-off import this will take forever *the first time* > ## (or around 20m), but subsequent invocations will be fast: > stuff "time lei up ~/Maildir/lei-q-git-ml^M" > > Runs an ad-hoc script to keep it up-to-date, which is quoted below: > > ## Run it in a loop > stuff "public-inbox-lei-pull-index^M" > > That script (which I whipped up just now. Is there a better/more > standard way? to keep a public-inbox+lei pair up-to-date with > sleep/backoff etc?
Not yet, unfortunately. I would like to have some sort of long-polling support (similar to IDLE in IMAP) because I hate sleep/backoff. But I don't think I'm physically nor mentally capable of doing that or much of anything, anymore.
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> #!/bin/sh > set -xe > > repo=~/g/git-ml > while true > do > oid=$(git -C $repo rev-parse HEAD) > git -C $repo pull > noid=$(git -C $repo rev-parse HEAD) > if test "$oid" = "$noid" > then > echo Nothing to update > sleep 60 > continue > fi > ( > cd $repo && > public-inbox-index -v "$PWD" > ) > lei up ~/Maildir/lei-q-git-ml > sleep 1 > done > > I use Emacs+mu4e for my E-Mail. And since I index ~/Maildir having these > files dropped in there will be added to its index. Then I just changed > my saved search to also look through that maildir (I guess the entire > first condition could be dropped, but whatever): > > "(maildir:/personal-gmail/* OR maildir:/lei-q-git-ml/*) AND list:git.vger.kernel.org OR recip:git@vger.kernel.org OR recip:git-packagers@googlegroups.com" > > Because "mu" is generally good about de-duplicating stuff I've now got > an inbox with mixed messages I can sync from GMail (including my "Sent" > folder), and I get up-to-the-minute ML traffic now (it's bee 10hrs-4day > delayed for 3-4 months at least). > > So new messages are generally from the "lei" directory, but when I send > one it'll be dropped in the personal-gmail. > > I still need to check if it's doing the wrong thing with e.g. "read" > flags if I read a mail synced via lei that later arrives in GMail. But I > mostly don't use "read" statuses anyway...
lei can export flags from its internal DBs to IMAP via "lei export-kw" see lei-mail-sync-overview(7) for some details, but usability is still rough...
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> 1. Maybe this "I only tested if it complied" patch would make sense to catch that?
>
> diff --git a/lib/PublicInbox/LeiXSearch.pm b/lib/PublicInbox/LeiXSearch.pm
> index 2958d3f9..be49621f 100644
> --- a/lib/PublicInbox/LeiXSearch.pm
> +++ b/lib/PublicInbox/LeiXSearch.pm
> @@ -613,7 +613,7 @@ sub add_uri {
> }
> }
>
> -sub prepare_external {
> +sub _prepare_external {
> my ($self, $loc, $boost) = @_; # n.b. already ordered by boost
> if (ref $loc) { # already a URI, or PublicInbox::Inbox-like object
> return add_uri($self, $loc) if $loc->can('scheme');
> @@ -638,6 +638,14 @@ sub prepare_external {
> push @{$self->{locals}}, $loc;
> }
>
> +sub prepare_external {
> + my ($self, $loc, $boost) = @_;
> + my $ret = _prepare_external($self, $loc, $boost);
> + warn "W: we got nothing from $loc, did you mean $loc/.git?"
> + if !$ret && -e "$loc/.git";
> + return $ret;
> +}Probably add a note saying non-bare repos are a terrible idea, anyways, especially for v1 public-inboxes like public-inbox.org/git