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Re: Feature request: provide a persistent IDs on a commit

From
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
Date
Jul 18, 2022, 18:50 UTC
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On Mon, Jul 18 2022, Stephen Finucane wrote:
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> ...to track evolution of a patch through time.
>
> tl;dr: How hard would it be to retrofit an 'ChangeID' concept à la the 'Change-
> ID' trailer used by Gerrit into git core?
>
> Firstly, apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum to post a feature
> request. I help maintain the Patchwork project [1], which a web-based tool that
> provides a mechanism to track the state of patches submitted to a mailing list
> and make sure stuff doesn't slip through the crack. One of our long-term goals
> has been to track the evolution of an individual patch through multiple
> revisions. This is surprisingly hard goal because oftentimes there isn't a whole
> lot to work with. One can try to guess whether things are the same by inspecting
> the metadata of the commit (subject, author, commit message, and the diff
> itself) but each of these metadata items are subject to arbitrary changes and
> are therefore fallible.
>
> One of the mechanisms I've seen used to address this is the 'Change-ID' trailer
> used by Gerrit. For anyone that hasn't seen this, the Gerrit server provides a
> git commit hook that you can install locally. When installed, this appends a
> 'Change-ID' trailer to each and every commit message. In this way, the evolution
> of a patch (or a "change", in Gerrit parlance) can be tracked through time since
> the Change ID provides an authoritative answer to the question "is this still
> the same patch". Unfortunately, there are still some obvious downside to this
> approach. Not only does this additional trailer clutter your commit messages but
> it's also something the user must install themselves. While Gerrit can insist
> that this is installed before pushing a change, this isn't an option for any of
> the common forges nor is it something git-send-email supports.

git format-patch+send-email will send your trailers along as-is, how doesn't it support Change-Id. Does it need some support that any other made-up trailer doesn't?

> I imagine most people working with mailing list based workflows have their own
> client side tooling to support this while software forges like GitHub and GitLab
> simply don't bother tracking version history between individual commits in a
> pull/merge request.

It's far from ideal, but at least GitLab shows a diff on a push to a MR, including if it's force-pushed. I'm not sure about GitHub.

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> IMO though, it would be fantastic if third party tools
> weren't necessary though. What I suspect we want is a persistent ID (or rather
> UUID) that never changes regardless of how many times a patch is cherry-picked,
> rebased, or otherwise modified, similar to the Author and AuthorDate fields.
> Like Author and AuthorDate, it would be part of the core git commit metadata
> rather than something in the commit message like Signed-Off-By or Change-ID.
>
> Has such an idea ever been explored? Is it even possible? Would it be broadly
> useful?

This has come up a bunch of times. I think that the thing git itself should be doing is to lean into the same notion that we use for tracking renames. I.e. we don't, we analyze history after-the-fact and spot the renames for you.

We have some of that in git already, as git-patch-id, and more recently git-range-diff. Both are flawed in a bunch of ways, and it's easy to run into edge cases where they don't spot something that they "should" have. Where "should" exists in the mind of the user.

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  1. Stephen FinucaneJul 18, 2022
  2. Konstantin RyabitsevJul 18, 2022
  3. Michal SuchánekJul 18, 2022
  4. Stephen FinucaneJul 19, 2022
  5. Glen ChooJul 18, 2022
  6. Konstantin RyabitsevJul 20, 2022
  7. Michal SuchánekJul 20, 2022
  8. Theodore Ts'oJul 20, 2022
  9. Han-Wen NienhuysJul 21, 2022
  10. Elijah NewrenJul 24, 2022
  11. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 18, 2022
  12. Stephen FinucaneJul 19, 2022
  13. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 19, 2022
  14. Michal SuchánekJul 19, 2022
  15. Stephen FinucaneJul 29, 2022
  16. Jason PyeronJul 29, 2022
  17. Phillip SusiJul 21, 2022
  18. Hilco WijbengaJul 21, 2022
  19. Philip OakleyJul 22, 2022
  20. Michal SuchánekJul 22, 2022
  21. Jacob KellerJul 22, 2022
  22. Michal SuchánekJul 23, 2022
  23. Elijah NewrenJul 24, 2022
  24. Michal SuchánekJul 24, 2022
  25. Jacob KellerJul 25, 2022
  26. Elijah NewrenJul 26, 2022
  27. Michal SuchánekJul 26, 2022
  28. Elijah NewrenJul 24, 2022
  29. Michal SuchánekJul 24, 2022
  30. Martin von ZweigbergkDec 15, 2024

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