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Re: [PATCH 1/1] xdiff: provide indirection to git functions

From
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
Date
Apr 15, 2022, 15:55 UTC
Message-ID
<220415.867d7qbaad.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To
<20220217225804.GC7@edef91d97c94>
On Thu, Feb 17 2022, Edward Thomson wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> 
>> [I'm assuming that dropping the list from CC was a mistake, re-CC-ing]
>
> It was; many apologies, I don't use mutt very often any more.  Thanks!

No worries. Also, late reply but I remembered & referenced this thread in https://lore.kernel.org/git/220415.86bkx2bb0p.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com/, and saw that I'd left this hanging...

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>> As for the "new person to our codebase..." I don't think you're wrong
>> there, but that's an asthetic preference, not something that's required
>> for the stated aims of this series of dropping in compatibility shims.
>
> Sure, but avoiding a prefix is also not a technical decision but an
> aesthetic and ergonomic one.

Yes, I see that, but this code is maintained in git.git, not libgit2.git, and having to remember to use custom malloc()/free() per-namespace is very much negative asthetics & ergonomics in that context.

So if the linker solution works...
> Is using a prefix here great?  No, it's not great, it's shit.  But it's
> shit that's easy to reason about.

I really don't see that, as noted in the linked newer reply above we have bugs due to this sort of pattern where someone uses mycustom_malloc(), forgets that, and then calls free() instead of mycustom_free().

Which is a bug and potential segfault that's entirely preventable by not using such wrappers at the per-file level (some one-off "this is where we provide a custom malloc" file might of course have such complexity).

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> If somebody sees a call to `xdl_free` in some code, they say "wtf is
> this `xdl_free` nonsense?"  And they grep around and figure it out and
> understand the way that this project handles heap allocations.  It's
> very transparent.
>
> If somebody sees a call to `free` in their code, they say "great,
> `free`".  But it merely *appears* very transparent; in fact, there's
> some magic behind the scenes that turns a `free` into a `git__free`
> without you knowing it.  You've not learned the way that this project
> handles heap allocations, but you also don't know that there's anything
> that you needed to learn.  These are the sorts of things that you think
> you understand but only discover when you _need_ to discover it because
> something's gone very wrong.

Because the reader assumed that when they saw malloc/free that it was The Canonical Libc version, as opposed to whatever custom malloc the library linked to?

> In my experience, calling a function what it _isn't_ is the sort of thing
> that a developer discovers the hard way, and that often leads to them
> not trusting the codebase because it doesn't do what it says it does.
But they aren't anything until you link to something that provides them.

Anyway, I think I see your point, you'd like names to always reflect their different-ness, no linker shenanigans.

Anyway, since per [1] it seemed Junio was also more partial to sticking with malloc/free *and* we're talking about a thing that gets one-off-imported into libgit2 (not as a submodule, presumably) I don't think there's any reason to really argue about this.

I.e. instead of importing the sources as-is why not just search-replace malloc to mymalloc and free to myfree?

Which can be either a dumb "sed" script, or even better the same (and guaranteed to understand C syntax) thing with coccinelle/spatch.

Which wouldn't require libgit2 to have a dependency on that, just
whatever dev runs that one-off import occasionally. The semantic patch
is just:
	
	@@
	expression E;
	@@
	- free(E);
	+ myfree(E);
	
	@@
	expression E;
	@@
	- malloc(E);
	+ mymalloc(E);
etc.

Wouldn't that also give you exactly what you want? Or was the plan to have libgit2 have some option to build this *directly* from git.git sources?

1. https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqfsohbdre.fsf@gitster.g/
Previous: Edward Thomson
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  1. 0/1 xdiff: share xdiff between git and libgit2Edward Thomson, Feb 9, 2022
  2. 1/1 xdiff: provide indirection to git functionsEdward Thomson, Feb 9, 2022
  3. Phillip WoodFeb 9, 2022
  4. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 15, 2022
  5. Phillip WoodFeb 16, 2022
  6. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 16, 2022
  7. Johannes SchindelinFeb 17, 2022
  8. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 17, 2022
  9. Junio C HamanoFeb 17, 2022
  10. Edward ThomsonFeb 17, 2022
  11. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 15, 2022

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