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Re: [WIP 0/7] CDN offloading of fetch response

From
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Date
Feb 28, 2019, 23:21 UTC
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<20190228232108.GA163714@google.com>
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Hi,

Sorry for the slow followup. Thanks for probing into the design --- this should be useful for getting the docs to be clear.

Christian Couder wrote:
> So it's likely that users will want a way to host on such sites
> incomplete repos using CDN offloading to a CDN on another site. And
> then if the CDN is not accessible for some reason, things will
> completely break when users will clone.

I think this would be a broken setup --- we can make it clear in the protocol and server docs that you should only point to a CDN for which you control the contents, to avoid breaking clients.

That doesn't prevent adding additional features in the future e.g. for "server suggested alternates" --- it's just that I consider that a separate feature.

Using CDN offloading requires cooperation of the hosting provider. It's a way to optimize how fetches work, not a way to have a partial repository on the server side.

[...]
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 12:45 AM Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> This doesn't stop a hosting provider from using e.g. server options to
>> allow the client more control over how their response is served, just
>> like can be done for other features of how the transfer works (how
>> often to send progress updates, whether to prioritize latency or
>> throughput, etc).
>
> Could you give a more concrete example of what could be done?

What I mean is passing server options using "git fetch --server-option". For example:

	git fetch -o priority=BATCH origin master
or
	git fetch -o avoid-cdn=badcdn.example.com origin master
The interpretation of server options is up to the server.
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>> What the client *can* do is turn off support for packfile URLs in a
>> request completely.  This is required for backward compatibility and
>> allows working around a host that has configured the feature
>> incorrectly.
>
> If the full content of a repo is really large, the size of a full pack
> file sent by an initial clone could be really big and many client
> machines could not have enough memory to deal with that. And this
> suppose that repo hosting providers would be ok to host very large
> repos in the first place.

Do we require the packfile to fit in memory? If so, we should fix that (to use streaming instead).

Thanks, Jonathan

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Message 20 of 45 in “[WIP 0/7] CDN offloading of fetch response”
  1. Jonathan TanFeb 23, 2019
  2. 1/7 http: use --stdin and --keep when downloading packJonathan Tan, Feb 23, 2019
  3. 2/7 http: improve documentation of http_pack_requestJonathan Tan, Feb 23, 2019
  4. 3/7 http-fetch: support fetching packfiles by URLJonathan Tan, Feb 23, 2019
  5. 4/7 Documentation: order protocol v2 sectionsJonathan Tan, Feb 23, 2019
  6. 5/7 Documentation: add Packfile URIs design docJonathan Tan, Feb 23, 2019
  7. 6/7 upload-pack: refactor reading of pack-objects outJonathan Tan, Feb 23, 2019
  8. 7/7 upload-pack: send part of packfile response as uriJonathan Tan, Feb 23, 2019
  9. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2019
  10. Christian CouderFeb 25, 2019
  11. Jonathan NiederFeb 26, 2019
  12. Christian CouderFeb 26, 2019
  13. Josh SteadmonMar 1, 2019
  14. Jonathan TanMar 1, 2019
  15. Christian CouderFeb 25, 2019
  16. Jonathan NiederFeb 25, 2019
  17. Christian CouderFeb 26, 2019
  18. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 26, 2019
  19. Christian CouderMar 4, 2019
  20. Jonathan NiederFeb 28, 2019
  21. Christian CouderMar 4, 2019
  22. 0/8 CDN offloading of fetch responseJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  23. 1/8 http: use --stdin when getting dumb HTTP packJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  24. 2/8 http: improve documentation of http_pack_requestJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  25. 3/8 http-fetch: support fetching packfiles by URLJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  26. 4/8 Documentation: order protocol v2 sectionsJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  27. 5/8 Documentation: add Packfile URIs design docJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  28. Jeff KingApr 23, 2019
  29. Jonathan TanApr 23, 2019
  30. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 23, 2019
  31. Jonathan NiederApr 23, 2019
  32. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 23, 2019
  33. Jonathan NiederApr 23, 2019
  34. Jonathan NiederApr 23, 2019
  35. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 23, 2019
  36. Jonathan NiederApr 23, 2019
  37. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 24, 2019
  38. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2019
  39. 6/8 upload-pack: refactor reading of pack-objects outJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  40. 7/8 fetch-pack: support more than one pack lockfileJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  41. 8/8 upload-pack: send part of packfile response as uriJonathan Tan, Mar 8, 2019
  42. Josh SteadmonMar 19, 2019
  43. Jeff KingApr 23, 2019
  44. Jonathan TanApr 23, 2019
  45. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 24, 2019

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