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Re: [PATCH 10/10] fast-export: add --always-show-modify-after-rename

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Nov 14, 2018, 07:14 UTC
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 09:10:36AM -0800, Elijah Newren wrote:
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> > I am looking at this problem as "how do you answer question X in a
> > repository". And I think you are looking at as "I am receiving a
> > fast-export stream, and I need to answer question X on the fly".
> >
> > And that would explain why you want to get extra annotations into the
> > fast-export stream. Is that right?
> 
> I'm not trying to get information on the fly during a rewrite or
> anything like that.  This is an optional pre-rewrite step (from a
> separate invocation of the tool) where I have multiple questions I
> want to answer.  I'd like to answer them all relatively quickly, if
> possible, and I think all of them should be answerable with a single
> history traversal (plus a cat-file --batch-all-objects call to get
> object sizes, since I don't know of another way to get those).  I'd be
> fine with switching from fast-export to log or something else if it
> met the needs better.

Ah, OK. Yes, if we're just trying to query, then I think you should be able to do what you want with the existing traversal and diff tools. And if not, we should think about a new feature there, and not try to shoe-horn it into fast-export.

> As far as I can tell, you're trying to split each question apart and
> do a history traversal for each, and I don't see why that's better.
> Simpler, perhaps, but it seems worse for performance.  Am I missing
> something?

I was only trying to address each possible query individually. I agree that if you are querying both things, you should be able to do it in a single traversal (and that is strictly better). It may require a little more parsing of the output (e.g., `--find-object` is easy to implement yourself looking at --raw output).

> Ah, I didn't know renames were on by default; I somehow missed that.
> Also, the rev-list to diff-tree pipe is nice, but I also need parent
> and commit timestamp information.

diff-tree will format the commit info as well (before git-log was a C builtin, it was just a rev-list/diff-tree pipeline in a shell script). So you can do:

  git rev-list ... |
  git diff-tree --stdin --format='%h %ct %p' --raw -r -M
and get dump very similar to what fast-export would give you.
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> > >   git log -M --diff-filter=RAMD --no-abbrev --raw
> >
> > What is there besides RAMD? :)
> 
> Well, as you pointed out above, log detects renames by default,
> whereas it didn't used to.
> So, if someone had written some similar-ish history walking/parsing
> tool years ago that didn't depend need renames and was based on log
> output, there's a good chance their tool might start failing when
> rename detection was turned on by default, because instead of getting
> both a 'D' and an 'M' change, they'd get an unexpected 'R'.

Mostly I just meant: your diff-filter includes basically everything, so why bother filtering? You're going to have to parse the result anyway, and you can throw away uninteresting bits there.

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> For my case, do I have to worry about similar future changes?  Will
> copy detection ('C') or break detection ('B') become the default in
> the future?  Do I have to worry about typechanges ('T")?  Will new
> change types be added?  I mean, the fast-export output could maybe
> change too, but it seems much less likely than with log.

If you use diff-tree, then it won't ever enable copy or break detection without you explicitly asking for it.

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> Let me try to put it as briefly as I can.  With as few traversals as
> possible, I want to:
>   * Get all blob sizes
>   * Map blob shas to filename(s) they appeared under in the history
>   * Find when files and directories were deleted (and whether they
> were later reinstated, since that means they aren't actually gone)
>   * Find sets of filenames referring to the same logical 'file'. (e.g.
> foo->bar in commit A and bar->baz in commit B mean that {foo,bar,baz}
> refer to the same 'file' so that a user has an easy report to look at
> to find out that if they just want to "keep baz and its history" then
> they need foo & bar & baz.  I need to know about things like another
> foo or bar being introduced after the rename though, since that breaks
> the connection between filenames)
>   * Do a few aggregations on the above data as well (e.g. all copies
> of postgres.exe add up to 20M -- why were those checked in anyway?,
> *.webm files in aggregate are .5G, your long-deleted src/video-server/
> directory from that aborted experimental project years ago takes up 2G
> of your history, etc.)
> 
> Right now, my best solution for this combination of questions is
> 'cat-file --batch-all-objects' plus fast-export, if I get patch 10/10
> in place.  I'm totally open to better solutions, including ones that
> don't use fast-export.

OK, I think I understand your problem better now. I don't think there's anything fast-export can show that log/diff-tree could not, aside from actual blob contents. But I don't think you want them (and if you did, you can use "cat-file --batch" to selectively request them).

I think there's a general problem with any serialized output (log or fast-export) that things like rename tracking depend on the topology. If I rename "foo" to "bar" on one branch, and "bar" to "baz" on another branch, without reconstructing the parent graph you don't realize that those two things were on parallel branches, and not a sequence. But with the parent ids, you can delve as deep as you like in your analysis script.

-Peff
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  1. Lars SchneiderSep 23, 2018
  2. Eric SunshineSep 23, 2018
  3. Lars SchneiderSep 23, 2018
  4. brian m. carlsonSep 23, 2018
  5. Jeff KingSep 23, 2018
  6. Elijah NewrenSep 24, 2018
  7. Lars SchneiderOct 31, 2018
  8. Elijah NewrenNov 1, 2018
  9. 00/10 fast export and import fixes and featuresElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  10. 01/10 git-fast-import.txt: fix documentation for --quiet optionElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  11. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  12. 02/10 git-fast-export.txt: clarify misleading documentation about rev-list argsElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  13. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  14. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2018
  15. Elijah NewrenNov 13, 2018
  16. Jonathan NiederNov 13, 2018
  17. Elijah NewrenNov 14, 2018
  18. 03/10 fast-export: use value from correct enumElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  19. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  20. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 11, 2018
  21. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 12, 2018
  22. Jeff KingNov 12, 2018
  23. 04/10 fast-export: avoid dying when filtering by paths and old tags existElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  24. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  25. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2018
  26. Jeff KingNov 12, 2018
  27. brian m. carlsonNov 12, 2018
  28. Jeff KingNov 13, 2018
  29. 05/10 fast-export: move commit rewriting logic into a function for reuseElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  30. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  31. 06/10 fast-export: when using paths, avoid corrupt stream with non-existent markElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  32. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  33. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2018
  34. Jeff KingNov 12, 2018
  35. Elijah NewrenNov 12, 2018
  36. 07/10 fast-export: ensure we export requested refsElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  37. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  38. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2018
  39. 08/10 fast-export: add --reference-excluded-parents optionElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  40. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  41. 09/10 fast-export: add a --show-original-ids option to show original namesElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  42. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  43. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2018
  44. Jeff KingNov 12, 2018
  45. Elijah NewrenNov 12, 2018
  46. Jeff KingNov 12, 2018
  47. 10/10 fast-export: add --always-show-modify-after-renameElijah Newren, Nov 11, 2018
  48. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  49. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2018
  50. Jeff KingNov 12, 2018
  51. Elijah NewrenNov 12, 2018
  52. Jeff KingNov 13, 2018
  53. Elijah NewrenNov 13, 2018
  54. Jeff KingNov 14, 2018
  55. Jeff KingNov 11, 2018
  56. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2018
  57. Jeff KingNov 12, 2018
  58. 00/11 fast export and import fixes and featuresElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  59. 07/11 fast-export: ensure we export requested refsElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  60. 11/11 fast-export: add --always-show-modify-after-renameElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  61. 01/11 git-fast-import.txt: fix documentation for --quiet optionElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  62. 10/11 fast-export: add a --show-original-ids option to show original namesElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  63. 05/11 fast-export: move commit rewriting logic into a function for reuseElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  64. 09/11 fast-import: remove unmaintained duplicate documentationElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  65. 04/11 fast-export: avoid dying when filtering by paths and old tags existElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  66. SZEDER GáborNov 14, 2018
  67. Elijah NewrenNov 14, 2018
  68. 06/11 fast-export: when using paths, avoid corrupt stream with non-existent markElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  69. 08/11 fast-export: add --reference-excluded-parents optionElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  70. SZEDER GáborNov 14, 2018
  71. Elijah NewrenNov 14, 2018
  72. 03/11 fast-export: use value from correct enumElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  73. 02/11 git-fast-export.txt: clarify misleading documentation about rev-list argsElijah Newren, Nov 14, 2018
  74. Jeff KingNov 14, 2018
  75. 00/11 fast export and import fixes and featuresElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  76. 03/11 git-fast-export.txt: clarify misleading documentation about rev-list argsElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  77. 07/11 fast-export: when using paths, avoid corrupt stream with non-existent markElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  78. 01/11 fast-export: convert sha1 to oidElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  79. 02/11 git-fast-import.txt: fix documentation for --quiet optionElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  80. 08/11 fast-export: ensure we export requested refsElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  81. 09/11 fast-export: add --reference-excluded-parents optionElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  82. 10/11 fast-import: remove unmaintained duplicate documentationElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  83. 06/11 fast-export: move commit rewriting logic into a function for reuseElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  84. 11/11 fast-export: add a --show-original-ids option to show original namesElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  85. SZEDER GáborNov 16, 2018
  86. 05/11 fast-export: avoid dying when filtering by paths and old tags existElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  87. 04/11 fast-export: use value from correct enumElijah Newren, Nov 16, 2018
  88. Jeff KingNov 16, 2018
  89. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 12, 2018
  90. Elijah NewrenNov 12, 2018

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