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Re: Hash algorithm analysis

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EDEric Deplagne <eric@deplagne.name>
Date
Jul 22, 2018, 14:55 UTC
Message-ID
<20180722145506.GL11431@mail.eric.deplagne.name>
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<20180722142148.GH18502@genre.crustytoothpaste.net>
On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 14:21:48 +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
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> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:34:42AM +0200, Eric Deplagne wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 23:59:41 +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > > I don't know your colleagues, and they haven't commented here.  One
> > > person that has commented here is Adam Langley.  It is my impression
> > > (and anyone is free to correct me if I'm incorrect) that he is indeed a
> > > cryptographer.  To quote him[0]:
> > > 
> > >   I think this group can safely assume that SHA-256, SHA-512, BLAKE2,
> > >   K12, etc are all secure to the extent that I don't believe that making
> > >   comparisons between them on that axis is meaningful. Thus I think the
> > >   question is primarily concerned with performance and implementation
> > >   availability.
> > > 
> > >   […]
> > > 
> > >   So, overall, none of these choices should obviously be excluded. The
> > >   considerations at this point are not cryptographic and the tradeoff
> > >   between implementation ease and performance is one that the git
> > >   community would have to make.
> > 
> >   Am I completely out of the game, or the statement that
> >     "the considerations at this point are not cryptographic"
> >   is just the wrongest ?
> > 
> >   I mean, if that was true, would we not be sticking to SHA1 ?
> 
> I snipped a portion of the context, but AGL was referring to the
> considerations involved in choosing from the proposed ones for NewHash.
> In context, he meant that the candidates for NewHash “are all secure”
> and are therefore a better choice than SHA-1.
  Maybe a little bit sensitive, but I really did read
    "we don't care if it's weak or strong, that's not the matter".
> I think we can all agree that SHA-1 is weak and should be replaced.
> -- 
> brian m. carlson: Houston, Texas, US
> OpenPGP: https://keybase.io/bk2204
-- 
  Eric Deplagne
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Message 22 of 66 in “State of NewHash work, future directions, and discussion”
  1. brian m. carlsonJun 9, 2018
  2. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 9, 2018
  3. Hash algorithm analysisbrian m. carlson, Jun 9, 2018
  4. Jonathan NiederJun 11, 2018
  5. Linus TorvaldsJun 11, 2018
  6. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 11, 2018
  7. David LangJun 12, 2018
  8. Linus TorvaldsJun 12, 2018
  9. brian m. carlsonJun 11, 2018
  10. Gilles Van AsscheJun 12, 2018
  11. brian m. carlsonJun 13, 2018
  12. Gilles Van AsscheJun 15, 2018
  13. brian m. carlsonJul 20, 2018
  14. Jonathan NiederJul 21, 2018
  15. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 21, 2018
  16. brian m. carlsonJul 21, 2018
  17. Johannes SchindelinJul 21, 2018
  18. Linus TorvaldsJul 21, 2018
  19. brian m. carlsonJul 21, 2018
  20. Eric DeplagneJul 22, 2018
  21. brian m. carlsonJul 22, 2018
  22. Eric DeplagneJul 22, 2018
  23. Johannes SchindelinJul 26, 2018
  24. Joan DaemenJul 22, 2018
  25. Adam LangleyJul 22, 2018
  26. Johannes SchindelinJul 26, 2018
  27. demerphqJul 23, 2018
  28. Sitaram ChamartyJul 23, 2018
  29. demerphqJul 23, 2018
  30. Linus TorvaldsJul 23, 2018
  31. Stefan BellerJul 23, 2018
  32. Jonathan NiederJul 23, 2018
  33. Edward ThomsonJul 24, 2018
  34. Linus TorvaldsJul 24, 2018
  35. Jonathan NiederJul 24, 2018
  36. Junio C HamanoJul 24, 2018
  37. brian m. carlsonJul 24, 2018
  38. Johannes SchindelinJul 30, 2018
  39. Dan ShumowJul 30, 2018
  40. Jonathan NiederAug 3, 2018
  41. Joan DaemenSep 18, 2018
  42. Jonathan NiederSep 18, 2018
  43. Linus TorvaldsSep 18, 2018
  44. 0/2 document that NewHash is now SHA-256Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jul 25, 2018
  45. 1/2 doc hash-function-transition: note the lack of a changelogÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jul 25, 2018
  46. 2/2 doc hash-function-transition: pick SHA-256 as NewHashÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jul 25, 2018
  47. Junio C HamanoJul 25, 2018
  48. Jonathan NiederJul 25, 2018
  49. Junio C HamanoJul 25, 2018
  50. 2/2 doc hash-function-transition: pick SHA-256 as NewHashÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jul 26, 2018
  51. Jonathan NiederAug 3, 2018
  52. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2018
  53. Linus TorvaldsAug 3, 2018
  54. Linus TorvaldsAug 3, 2018
  55. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 3, 2018
  56. Jonathan NiederAug 4, 2018
  57. brian m. carlsonAug 3, 2018
  58. brian m. carlsonJul 25, 2018
  59. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 11, 2018
  60. Johannes SchindelinJun 21, 2018
  61. brian m. carlsonJun 21, 2018
  62. Duy NguyenJun 11, 2018
  63. brian m. carlsonJun 12, 2018
  64. Jonathan NiederJun 11, 2018
  65. brian m. carlsonJun 12, 2018
  66. Jonathan NiederJun 12, 2018

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