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Re: [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync'

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W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
Date
Dec 1, 2012, 18:16 UTC
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On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 07:04:05PM +0100, Jens Lehmann wrote:
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> Am 01.12.2012 18:49, schrieb W. Trevor King:
> > I think removing `init` will cause some compatibility issues anyway,
> > so I was re-imaging how you do it.  I don't think update='none' and
> > "don't populate my submodule" are distinct ideas, while a locally
> > configured url="somwhere" and "please populate my submodule" are (with
> > the blank-url case defaulting to the superproject itself).
> 
> Why would we want to remove "init"? It still has to copy the "url"
> setting (and it would be a compatibility nightmare if we would change
> that, imagine different git versions used on the same work tree).

In my init-less rewrite, it doesn't have to copy the url setting. People using older versions of Git would need to run `init` using their old version. Having the url defined in .git/config won't break my init-less submodule commands, it just means that the value in .gitmodules will be masked.

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> >> What real world problems do we have with the current init/sync that
> >> this approach would solve?
> > 
> > I don't have any, but in my `update --remote` series I'm adding two
> > new config options that are handled differently (define in
> > .gitmodules, override in superproject .git/config) than existing
> > submodules options.
> 
> No, they're not. They are just handled differently than "url" and
> "update", but will behave just like "fetchRecurseSubmodules" and
> "ignore" do since day one. And as I explained in another mail I
> think "url" is special and "update" should be change to behave like
> the other two some day.

I somehow missed those earlier. Thanks for correcting my tunnel vision. This makes me much happier about postponing the init-removal.

Cheers, Trevor

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Message 13 of 67 in “Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes”
  1. W. Trevor KingNov 29, 2012
  2. Phil HordNov 30, 2012
  3. W. Trevor KingNov 30, 2012
  4. [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync'W. Trevor King, Nov 30, 2012
  5. W. Trevor KingNov 30, 2012
  6. Phil HordNov 30, 2012
  7. W. Trevor KingDec 1, 2012
  8. Jens LehmannDec 1, 2012
  9. W. Trevor KingDec 1, 2012
  10. Jens LehmannDec 1, 2012
  11. W. Trevor KingDec 1, 2012
  12. Jens LehmannDec 1, 2012
  13. W. Trevor KingDec 1, 2012
  14. Jens LehmannDec 1, 2012
  15. W. Trevor KingDec 1, 2012
  16. submodule: add 'deinit' commandJens Lehmann, Dec 1, 2012
  17. Junio C HamanoDec 2, 2012
  18. W. Trevor KingDec 2, 2012
  19. Jens LehmannDec 2, 2012
  20. W. Trevor KingDec 2, 2012
  21. W. Trevor KingDec 3, 2012
  22. Jens LehmannDec 2, 2012
  23. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2012
  24. submodule: add 'deinit' commandJens Lehmann, Dec 4, 2012
  25. Junio C HamanoDec 4, 2012
  26. Michael J GruberDec 12, 2012
  27. Jens LehmannDec 12, 2012
  28. Junio C HamanoDec 12, 2012
  29. Jens LehmannDec 12, 2012
  30. Junio C HamanoDec 12, 2012
  31. W. Trevor KingDec 12, 2012
  32. Junio C HamanoDec 12, 2012
  33. W. Trevor KingDec 13, 2012
  34. Marc BranchaudDec 13, 2012
  35. Jens LehmannDec 1, 2012
  36. W. Trevor KingDec 1, 2012
  37. 0/4 submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changesW. Trevor King, Dec 2, 2012
  38. 1/4 submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtionW. Trevor King, Dec 2, 2012
  39. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2012
  40. 2/4 submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changesW. Trevor King, Dec 2, 2012
  41. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2012
  42. W. Trevor KingDec 3, 2012
  43. W. Trevor KingDec 3, 2012
  44. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2012
  45. W. Trevor KingDec 4, 2012
  46. 0/3 submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changesW. Trevor King, Dec 11, 2012
  47. 1/3 submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtionW. Trevor King, Dec 11, 2012
  48. 2/3 submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changesW. Trevor King, Dec 11, 2012
  49. Phil HordDec 12, 2012
  50. Junio C HamanoDec 12, 2012
  51. W. Trevor KingDec 12, 2012
  52. 0/3 submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changeswking@tremily.us, Dec 19, 2012
  53. 1/3 submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtionwking@tremily.us, Dec 19, 2012
  54. Heiko VoigtDec 21, 2012
  55. W. Trevor KingDec 21, 2012
  56. 2/3 submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changeswking@tremily.us, Dec 19, 2012
  57. 3/3 submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmoduleswking@tremily.us, Dec 19, 2012
  58. Junio C HamanoDec 19, 2012
  59. Heiko VoigtDec 21, 2012
  60. 3/3 submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodulesW. Trevor King, Dec 11, 2012
  61. Junio C HamanoDec 12, 2012
  62. W. Trevor KingDec 12, 2012
  63. Junio C HamanoDec 12, 2012
  64. W. Trevor KingDec 12, 2012
  65. 3/4 submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodulesW. Trevor King, Dec 2, 2012
  66. 4/4 submodule update: add submodule.<name>.remote config optionW. Trevor King, Dec 2, 2012
  67. Jens LehmannDec 2, 2012

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