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Re: Gitweb != HTTP back-end {Was: Re: The future of gitweb - part 2: JavaScript}

From
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Date
Apr 20, 2011, 18:47 UTC
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<1303323892.20895.22.camel@drew-northup.unet.maine.edu>
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Drew Northup wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 12:11 +0200, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
>>> 2011/04/17 00:19:07 +0200 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> => To Peter Vereshagin :
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>>> JN> Fetching and pushing via HTTP is not web interface, is HTTP _transport_.
>>> 
>>> But HTTP is an application protocol, not a transport protocol.
> 
> Forgive me, but this is seriously off-base. 
> HTTP := Hyper-Text Transport Protocol. 
>
> It is a generic, stateless, way of moving text (Base-64 encoded for
> binary data) over the wire. Sure, the ISO/OSI model may classify it as
> an "application," but that term does not mean the same thing in all
> contexts. As far as Git is concerned it is a transport; as far as the
> ISO/OSI model of networking is concerned it is an application. We aren't
> talking here about the latter.
 
Note that it is the same relation as Git has with SSH: for Git it is
(statefull and binary-safe, and authenthicated and encrypted) way
of transporting data.
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>> 
>> Fetching via "smart" HTTP protocol is actually git-over-http, with
>> some extra work due to the fact that HTTP is stateless.
> 
> ...and Base-64 encoded, and chunked, and so on...

But with git-http-backend being a CGI script, this is what web server does; git doesn't need to worry about it, but it has to worry about HTTP being stateless.

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Jakub Narebski
Poland
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  1. Jakub NarebskiFeb 14, 2011
  2. Michael J GruberFeb 15, 2011
  3. Jakub NarebskiFeb 21, 2011
  4. Michael J GruberFeb 23, 2011
  5. The future of git-instaweb (was: Re: The future of gitweb (long term goals))Jakub Narebski, Feb 25, 2011
  6. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 22, 2011
  7. Jakub NarebskiFeb 22, 2011
  8. The future of gitweb - part 2: JavaScriptJakub Narebski, Apr 14, 2011
  9. Michał ŁowickiApr 14, 2011
  10. david@lang.hmApr 15, 2011
  11. Peter VereshaginApr 16, 2011
  12. Jakub NarebskiApr 16, 2011
  13. Peter VereshaginApr 16, 2011
  14. Jakub NarebskiApr 16, 2011
  15. Peter VereshaginApr 16, 2011
  16. Jakub NarebskiApr 16, 2011
  17. Jakub NarebskiApr 16, 2011
  18. Peter VereshaginApr 16, 2011
  19. Jakub NarebskiApr 17, 2011
  20. Gitweb != HTTP back-end {Was: Re: The future of gitweb - part 2: JavaScript}Drew Northup, Apr 20, 2011
  21. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2011
  22. Pau Garcia i QuilesApr 16, 2011
  23. Jakub NarebskiApr 17, 2011
  24. Pau Garcia i QuilesApr 17, 2011
  25. Jakub NarebskiApr 18, 2011
  26. Petr BaudisApr 17, 2011
  27. Jakub NarebskiApr 18, 2011
  28. Petr BaudisApr 18, 2011
  29. Jakub NarebskiApr 18, 2011
  30. Drew NorthupApr 20, 2011

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