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Re: [PATCH] be paranoid about closed stdin/stdout/stderr

From
Stephen R. van den Berg <srb@cuci.nl>
Date
Aug 27, 2008, 09:04 UTC
Message-ID
<20080827090423.GA484@cuci.nl>
In-Reply-To
<quack.20080826T2005.lthzlmz2m4g@roar.cs.berkeley.edu>
Karl Chen wrote:
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>Yes, I can work around this issue with sh -c 'git fetch
>0</dev/null', and maybe it shouldn't close(0) in the first place.
>But I don't see the harm in being safe.  It's one less potential
>surprise for users.  This is the first program I've encountered
>that broke due to stdin being closed, and it took debugging to
>figure out that was the reason.

I understand the reasoning, and there sure is a valid point in here (principle of least surprise), but there is also the case of hiding problems. It's a bit unclear which should prevail here. The point is that if you actually make git detect and correct closed descriptors which should have been open, then you are merely passing the buck to all other programs the user is starting which might or might not break.

Maybe the breakage of other programs is only in conjunction with full-moon and FD 0 closed, in that case you make the problems/bugs even *harder* to find for the user by making git "fix it for you".

-- 
Sincerely,
           Stephen R. van den Berg.
"First, God created idiots.  That was just for practice.
 Then he created school boards."  --  Mark Twain
Previous: Paolo BonziniNext: Johannes Sixt
Message 33 of 37 in “Fix start_command() pipe bug when stdin is closed.”
  1. Fix start_command() pipe bug when stdin is closed.Karl Chen, Aug 25, 2008
  2. Johannes SixtAug 25, 2008
  3. Paolo BonziniAug 25, 2008
  4. fix start_command() bug when stdin is closedPaolo Bonzini, Aug 25, 2008
  5. Johannes SixtAug 25, 2008
  6. fix start_command() bug when stdin is closedPaolo Bonzini, Aug 25, 2008
  7. Karl ChenAug 25, 2008
  8. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2008
  9. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2008
  10. Johannes SixtAug 26, 2008
  11. Paolo BonziniAug 26, 2008
  12. be paranoid about closed stdin/stdout/stderrPaolo Bonzini, Aug 26, 2008
  13. Johannes SixtAug 26, 2008
  14. Stephen R. van den BergAug 26, 2008
  15. Avery PennarunAug 27, 2008
  16. Stephen R. van den BergAug 27, 2008
  17. Paolo BonziniAug 27, 2008
  18. make git-shell paranoid about closed stdin/stdout/stderrPaolo Bonzini, Aug 27, 2008
  19. Stephen R. van den BergAug 27, 2008
  20. Junio C HamanoAug 27, 2008
  21. Paolo BonziniAug 28, 2008
  22. Stephen R. van den BergAug 28, 2008
  23. Avery PennarunAug 27, 2008
  24. Nick AndrewAug 28, 2008
  25. Stephen R. van den BergAug 28, 2008
  26. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2008
  27. Paolo BonziniAug 26, 2008
  28. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2008
  29. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2008
  30. Stephen R. van den BergAug 26, 2008
  31. Karl ChenAug 27, 2008
  32. Paolo BonziniAug 27, 2008
  33. Stephen R. van den BergAug 27, 2008
  34. Johannes SixtAug 27, 2008
  35. Paolo BonziniAug 27, 2008
  36. Nick AndrewAug 27, 2008
  37. Karl ChenAug 25, 2008

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