git-svn on MSysGit and why is it (going to be?) unsupported

From: Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Date: Aug 6, 2008, 13:51 UTC
Message-ID: <20080806135100.GB10151@machine.or.cz>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0808061436310.9611@pacific.mpi-cbg.de.mpi-cbg.de>

Hi!

On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:43:51PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

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> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, Petr Baudis wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 01:57:54PM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > > Note that you will have to do your digging using msysGit (i.e. the 
> > > developer's pack, not the installer for plain Git), since git-svn will 
> > > be removed from the next official "Windows Git" release, due to lack 
> > > of fixers.
> > 
> >   is there any other problem with git-svn on Windows than the CRLF
> > issue? I couldn't find anything significant in the issue tracker.
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/issues/detail?id=120&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Component%20Owner%20Summary

Yes, that's why added the word "significant". ;-) This seems to be simple module-out-of-sync issue.

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> It is also frustrating that 
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/issues/detail?id=83&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Component%20Owner%20Summary
> http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/issues/detail?id=103&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Component%20Owner%20Summary
> http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/issues/detail?id=129&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Component%20Owner%20Summary
> 
> are probably the same issue.  I cannot only blame the users for not really 
> looking if their issue has been reported yet; there are 32 open issues in 
> msysGit right now, number increasing, so it gets quite confusing.
> 
> I once switched off the issue tracker, because I was the only one who took 
> at least a little bit of care of it.  Due to list consensus, it was turned 
> back on -- against my will.
> 
> Guess who takes care of it right now?
> 
> Exactly.  So I will soon be switching it off again, I think, because there 
> are few more useless things than an unmonitored issue tracker.

Well, when looking through the tracker earlier today, I actually wanted to mark few dupes, but I did not find out how on the earth I'm supposed to do that. Either the operation is well-hidden in the web interface or I have to have some special rights to do that - in which case, it's no wonder the tracker is deteriorating.

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> >   If not, why do you want to drop git-svn from Windows Git? It seems 
> > that the CRLF issue has trivial workaround to set autocrlf=false; this 
> > will make git-svn-tracked repositories useful only on Windows, but I'd 
> > bet this is fine for large majority of Windows git-svn users?
> 
> If it was so trivial, why does nobody use it?

Because it is not documented? Or is it? *Searches crlf in git-svn.html bundled with his msysgit* *Looks at Git FAQ* *Looks for release notes in the start menu ... unsuccessfully* *Tries to Google out MSysGit release notes ... unsuccessfully* *Founds MSysGit release notes sitting in Program Files* "git svn is slow or seems to be broken (see discussions on the mailing list)" What is "the" mailing list in MSysGit context?

*Googles out MSysGit Google Group* *Searches git-svn and pages... and pages.*

	http://groups.google.com/group/msysgit/browse_thread/thread/8240da55a76f8c92/30656b448e9f5e74?lnk=gst&q=git-svn#30656b448e9f5e74

Okay. That was really easy to find, wasn't it... Somewhere deep inside, even few mentions of autocrlf can be found.

> Oh, and git-svn is slow, too.
> 
> And _noone_ of those competent Windows git-svn users seemed fit or willing 
> to do anything about git-svn, not even the simplest of issues.

I can of course understand that argument, even though it's a bit sad to see when the issues are apparently either trivial or there is simple workaround available. My trouble was that the _concrete_ reasons for this are buried deep inside long mail threads (or threads on other mailing lists).

> If you want to do something about it, go ahead.  But I have no inclination 
> of hearing from any Windows user about git-svn again, ever.

Not currently, I'm just afraid I *might* have to sometime in the future. ;-)

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				Petr "Pasky" Baudis
The next generation of interesting software will be done
on the Macintosh, not the IBM PC.  -- Bill Gates