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Re: [PATCH v6] doc: add an explanation of Git's data model

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Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
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Nov 7, 2025, 21:40 UTC
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On Fri, Nov 7, 2025, at 4:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> "Julia Evans via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>     changes in v6:
>>     
>>      * Make punctuation more consistent (from Patrick's review)
>
> Good.
>
>>      * Explain more about when exactly amended commits will get deleted
>>        (when their reflog entry expires), from Junio's review
>
> Looked good.
>
>>      * Be more explicit that there are only 5 file modes in Git (from
>>        Junio's review)
>
> I find "These are all of the file modes in Git" hard to read and
> understand, and more importantly, does not imply that we won't be
> adding any others strongly enough, than something like "Git uses
> only the following modes to represent the objects it stores".
>
>>      * Make tag object description clearer (from Junio's review)

I wonder if it would help to de-emphasize the octal representation of the file modes, and instead give them names since (from a data model section Git's file modes are really more like an enum with 5 values than )

Something like this:
	Git has 5 file modes:
	  - *regular file* (with <<object,object type>> `blob`)
	  - *executable file* (with type `blob`)
	  - *symbolic link* (with type `blob`)
	  - *directory* (with type `tree`)
	  - *gitlink*, for use with submodules (with type `commit`)
	NOTE: Git normally displays file modes in the same format as Unix file modes
	(100644, 100755, 120000, 040000, and 160000 respectively), but file modes are
	only spiritually related to Unix file modes.
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> OK.
>
>>      * We had a long discussion about the phrasing of "A branch refers to a
>>        commit ID" but I didn't come up with any ideas for how to improve the
>>        phrasing so I left it as is.
>
> I gave you something that is clearly an improvement there, though.
> Just like a tag object records "the ID of the object it references",
> a branch records "the ID of the commit it references".

To me an "improvement" is something that helps the reader understand how Git's data model, and I do not understand in what way this rephrasing helps the reader, or how you think the current phrasing might cause confusion for the reader.

From my point of view "a branch refers to a commit ID" clearly means the exact same thing as "a branch records the ID of the commit it references" and "a branch records the ID of the commit it references" is just a less clear and more indirect way to communicate that.

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> Another thing we discussed and a better alternative offered during
> the last round was "base directory", to which Patrick mentioned 
> "we rather consistently use 'root tree'"
>
>  cf. https://lore.kernel.org/git/aQhcbHJjiI5GtV6Y@pks.im/

I think it would be better to stick with "directory" here, because I've gotten several reader comments saying that they do not understand the term "tree" when it is used as a synonym for "directory".

Maybe "root directory"?
> Other than a few minor points I pointed out above, and the broken
> xml id/idref that does not validate, this round looks good to me.
Will fix the broken XML.
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  1. doc: add a explanation of Git's data modelJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Oct 3, 2025
  2. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 3, 2025
  3. Julia EvansOct 6, 2025
  4. D. Ben KnobleOct 6, 2025
  5. Julia EvansOct 6, 2025
  6. D. Ben KnobleOct 6, 2025
  7. Julia EvansOct 9, 2025
  8. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 8, 2025
  9. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2025
  10. Julia EvansOct 6, 2025
  11. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 7, 2025
  12. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2025
  13. Patrick SteinhardtOct 7, 2025
  14. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2025
  15. Julia EvansOct 7, 2025
  16. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2025
  17. D. Ben KnobleOct 7, 2025
  18. Julia EvansOct 7, 2025
  19. Patrick SteinhardtOct 8, 2025
  20. Junio C HamanoOct 8, 2025
  21. Julia EvansOct 8, 2025
  22. doc: add a explanation of Git's data modelJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Oct 8, 2025
  23. Patrick SteinhardtOct 10, 2025
  24. Junio C HamanoOct 13, 2025
  25. Patrick SteinhardtOct 14, 2025
  26. Julia EvansOct 14, 2025
  27. Patrick SteinhardtOct 14, 2025
  28. Junio C HamanoOct 14, 2025
  29. doc: add a explanation of Git's data modelJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Oct 14, 2025
  30. Patrick SteinhardtOct 15, 2025
  31. Junio C HamanoOct 15, 2025
  32. Julia EvansOct 15, 2025
  33. Junio C HamanoOct 15, 2025
  34. Julia EvansOct 16, 2025
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  36. Julia EvansOct 16, 2025
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  39. Junio C HamanoOct 16, 2025
  40. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 16, 2025
  41. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 20, 2025
  42. Junio C HamanoOct 20, 2025
  43. doc: add an explanation of Git's data modelJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Oct 27, 2025
  44. Junio C HamanoOct 27, 2025
  45. Julia EvansOct 28, 2025
  46. Junio C HamanoOct 28, 2025
  47. doc: add an explanation of Git's data modelJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Oct 30, 2025
  48. Junio C HamanoOct 31, 2025
  49. Patrick SteinhardtNov 3, 2025
  50. Junio C HamanoNov 3, 2025
  51. Julia EvansNov 3, 2025
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  57. Julia EvansNov 5, 2025
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  59. Julia EvansNov 5, 2025
  60. Ben KnobleNov 6, 2025
  61. Junio C HamanoOct 31, 2025
  62. Patrick SteinhardtNov 3, 2025
  63. Julia EvansNov 3, 2025
  64. doc: add an explanation of Git's data modelJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2025
  65. Junio C HamanoNov 7, 2025
  66. Junio C HamanoNov 7, 2025
  67. Julia EvansNov 7, 2025
  68. Junio C HamanoNov 7, 2025
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  71. Junio C HamanoNov 9, 2025
  72. Julia EvansNov 10, 2025
  73. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2025
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  75. Julia EvansNov 11, 2025
  76. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2025
  77. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2025
  78. Julia EvansNov 13, 2025
  79. Junio C HamanoNov 13, 2025
  80. Julia EvansNov 13, 2025
  81. Chris TorekNov 13, 2025
  82. Junio C HamanoNov 13, 2025
  83. doc: add an explanation of Git's data modelJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Nov 12, 2025
  84. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2025
  85. Junio C HamanoNov 23, 2025
  86. Patrick SteinhardtDec 1, 2025
  87. Junio C HamanoDec 2, 2025
  88. Julia EvansOct 9, 2025
  89. Ben KnobleOct 10, 2025

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