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RE: [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privileged

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May 9, 2022, 19:16 UTC
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On May 9, 2022 2:49 PM, Carlo Arenas wrote:
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>On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 9:54 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is not just "not likely", but such an attack, with a potential
>> victim not futzing with SUDO_UID environment themselves, would not
>> work at all.  The value of SUDO_UID and the original uid of the
>> potential victim by definition should fit in the uid_t type.  So if
>> you, the aspiring cracker, have UID 1000, nobody else on the system
>> has UID that is congruent modulo uid_t and wrap-around attack does not
>> exist.  As long as the type we use to read SUDO_UID string into a
>> variable is not narrower than uid_t, there.
>
>correct; would adding a less elegant "static_assert" (obviously not available in C99)
>in the code an alternative?, or you are suggesting that documenting that constrain
>should be done in a comment and hope it doesn't get ignored in the future, or
>maybe gets instead made less likely to fail by some additional work, like the one I
>suggested to do later by moving this code around and using intmax_t instead?
>
>not that there are 2 different scenarios which we might seem to be flip flopping
>about :
>
>1) victim gets attacked by tricking them into using the wrong SUDO_UID
>
>unlikely to be useful as you pointed out, and totally useless if we still restrict this
>code to run only as root
>
>2) attacker using this code to elevate privileges themselves
>
>only useful if this code is not run as root.
>
>My concern again, is not with this code AS-IS but how it might be used in the
>future.
>
>> Of course you can tell any user who runs "sudo" to set SUDO_UID to
>> 1000 + 64k and cause wrap-around, but then you can tell them to set
>> SUDO_UID to 1000 without relying on wrap-around and have the same
>> effect.  So, let's stop worrying about this bogus scenario.
>
>bogus only if we are still only running this code as root, of course.
>
>> As to the "we can break compilation with -Wsign-compare on a system
>> with signed uid_t", I agree that is true if we have
>
>Apologies for not documenting it until now, but I had -Wtautological-constant-out-
>of-range-compare in mind instead, but your are correct either one would work
>and the point was that (without having to add even an "static assert") we were
>able to find them and warn them that they need to patch.
>
>>         env_id <= (uid_t) -1
>
>If that was not enough, that simple code ALSO disabled the code in that case to
>make sure they MUST patch locally if they need to make it work, or come back to
>us to figure out a portable way to accommodate them in the future, with all the
>information about their system we currently lack.
>
>> there.  But I am not sure if that is the most effective way to smoke
>> out platforms where this code has trouble working correctly.  Also, I
>> would think that a system with signed uid_t is a possibility, but a
>> user with a negative UID?
>
>It doesn't need to be a real user (specially if someone independently decides to
>remove the restriction that keeps this code available only to root).
>
>The fact that it was negative but was treated as a positive number on our code just
>makes the wraparound we decided to ignore before more likely to work without
>triggering alarms somewhere else and because we decided to ignore an unlikely to
>be useful positive wraparound, we also would fall from the negative wraparound
>here that would had protected this code from both if that humble line of code
>wouldn't had been removed.
>
>In your hypothetical system where uid_t is 16-bit (hence 15-bit for valid non-
>negative ids if uid_t is signed, since no sane system would have negative ones),
>either 65536 or -65536 would become 0, as well as at least the other 2^16
>possibilities that a larger long would provide.
>
>If the size difference is even smaller (ex: uid_t is signed int), so the type we are
>using to parse those values is only 1 bit wider it will still be a concern IMHO.
Just to be pedantic uid_t is signed int is not always smaller. It is 32-bit on NonStop. uid_t signed short or signed char would be smaller. I have wondered why uid_t was not defined as unsigned int or unsigned long (although unsigned long is 64 bits on the x86 wide model NonStop) because they cannot be negative. Making assumptions about size or sign when doing this check is not correct IMHO. It should be a direct comparison of env_id != ROOT_UID, where you know what ROOT_UID is on the specific platform. I do not like the <= concept for user id comparison because it is making assumptions. Structurally, on NonStop, (uid & 0x0000FF00) == 0x0000FF00 can be used to check whether the user is in the root group but that is coincidental and subject to change without notice. No one worth their salt does that comparison on platform, rather they compare getgid() == 255 to do that test.
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>
>I know people that wrote code to check if "/" was writable as means to make sure
>they were "root", because that is what any sane system would do, and then came
>Windows and even in 2022 anyone can write to "/"
>there and create subdirectories.
On NonStop: / is often writable by non-root users in the root group. Non-root users in the root group sometimes have repositories. In cygwin, / is owned by the user who installed cygwin or the OS rather than root. It is a relatively random number, and definitely not 0. It is also possible that a dedicated VM in Linux can be spun up for sandbox testing allowing anyone to write anywhere. Even if you run git as Administrator on Windows 10+, it will not have the userId of 0 in cygwin git. I do not think the / writable assumption is portable.
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  1. git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running priviledgedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 26, 2022
  2. Derrick StoleeApr 26, 2022
  3. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2022
  4. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 26, 2022
  5. Carlo ArenasApr 26, 2022
  6. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2022
  7. Carlo ArenasApr 26, 2022
  8. Carlo ArenasApr 26, 2022
  9. Derrick StoleeApr 29, 2022
  10. git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 27, 2022
  11. Phillip WoodApr 27, 2022
  12. Phillip WoodApr 27, 2022
  13. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 27, 2022
  14. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  15. Phillip WoodApr 27, 2022
  16. Junio C HamanoApr 27, 2022
  17. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  18. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 27, 2022
  19. Junio C HamanoApr 27, 2022
  20. Phillip WoodApr 28, 2022
  21. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  22. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 27, 2022
  23. Junio C HamanoApr 27, 2022
  24. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  25. Phillip WoodApr 27, 2022
  26. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 27, 2022
  27. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  28. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 27, 2022
  29. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  30. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 27, 2022
  31. Phillip WoodApr 27, 2022
  32. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  33. Phillip WoodApr 27, 2022
  34. Carlo ArenasApr 27, 2022
  35. git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 27, 2022
  36. Junio C HamanoApr 27, 2022
  37. 0/2 fix `sudo make install` regression in maintCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 28, 2022
  38. 1/2 Documentation: explain how safe.directory works when running under sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 28, 2022
  39. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  40. Carlo ArenasApr 28, 2022
  41. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  42. 2/2 t: add tests for safe.directory when running with sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 28, 2022
  43. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  44. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  45. 0/3 fix `sudo make install` regression in maintCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 28, 2022
  46. 1/3 git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 28, 2022
  47. Phillip WoodApr 28, 2022
  48. Carlo ArenasApr 28, 2022
  49. 2/3 Documentation: explain how safe.directory works when running under sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 28, 2022
  50. Bagas SanjayaApr 30, 2022
  51. Junio C HamanoApr 30, 2022
  52. Carlo Marcelo Arenas BelónApr 30, 2022
  53. 3/3 t: add tests for safe.directory when running with sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Apr 28, 2022
  54. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  55. Phillip WoodApr 28, 2022
  56. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  57. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  58. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2022
  59. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  60. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2022
  61. Carlo Marcelo Arenas BelónMay 7, 2022
  62. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 28, 2022
  63. Carlo ArenasApr 28, 2022
  64. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 28, 2022
  65. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  66. Carlo ArenasApr 28, 2022
  67. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 28, 2022
  68. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  69. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 28, 2022
  70. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  71. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  72. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 28, 2022
  73. Carlo ArenasApr 28, 2022
  74. Carlo ArenasApr 28, 2022
  75. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2022
  76. Carlo Marcelo Arenas BelónApr 29, 2022
  77. Junio C HamanoApr 29, 2022
  78. Carlo Marcelo Arenas BelónApr 29, 2022
  79. 0/3 fix `sudo make install` regression in maintCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 2, 2022
  80. 1/3 t: document regression git safe.directory when using sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 2, 2022
  81. Junio C HamanoMay 2, 2022
  82. Carlo ArenasMay 2, 2022
  83. 2/3 git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 2, 2022
  84. 3/3 t0034: enhance framework to allow testing more commands under sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 2, 2022
  85. Junio C HamanoMay 2, 2022
  86. Carlo ArenasMay 3, 2022
  87. 0/3 fix `sudo make install` regression in maintCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 3, 2022
  88. 2/3 git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 3, 2022
  89. Johannes SchindelinMay 5, 2022
  90. Phillip WoodMay 5, 2022
  91. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  92. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2022
  93. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  94. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2022
  95. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  96. rsbecker@nexbridge.comMay 6, 2022
  97. Junio C HamanoMay 5, 2022
  98. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  99. 1/3 t: document regression git safe.directory when using sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 3, 2022
  100. Phillip WoodMay 3, 2022
  101. Carlo Marcelo Arenas BelónMay 3, 2022
  102. Phillip WoodMay 4, 2022
  103. Carlo ArenasMay 4, 2022
  104. Phillip WoodMay 4, 2022
  105. Johannes SchindelinMay 5, 2022
  106. Phillip WoodMay 5, 2022
  107. Junio C HamanoMay 5, 2022
  108. Junio C HamanoMay 5, 2022
  109. Junio C HamanoMay 5, 2022
  110. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  111. Phillip WoodMay 9, 2022
  112. Carlo ArenasMay 9, 2022
  113. Phillip WoodMay 9, 2022
  114. Junio C HamanoMay 9, 2022
  115. Carlo ArenasMay 9, 2022
  116. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  117. 3/3 t0034: enhance framework to allow testing more commands under sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 3, 2022
  118. Phillip WoodMay 3, 2022
  119. Junio C HamanoMay 3, 2022
  120. Carlo ArenasMay 6, 2022
  121. 0/3 fix `sudo make install` regression in maintCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 7, 2022
  122. 1/3 t: regression git needs safe.directory when using sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 7, 2022
  123. 2/3 git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 7, 2022
  124. Junio C HamanoMay 7, 2022
  125. Carlo Marcelo Arenas BelónMay 7, 2022
  126. Junio C HamanoMay 9, 2022
  127. rsbecker@nexbridge.comMay 9, 2022
  128. Carlo ArenasMay 9, 2022
  129. rsbecker@nexbridge.comMay 9, 2022
  130. Junio C HamanoMay 9, 2022
  131. 3/3 t0034: add negative tests and allow git init to mostly work under sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 7, 2022
  132. Phillip WoodMay 10, 2022
  133. Carlo ArenasMay 10, 2022
  134. 0/3 fix `sudo make install` regression in maintCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 10, 2022
  135. 1/3 t: regression git needs safe.directory when using sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 10, 2022
  136. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2022
  137. Carlo ArenasMay 10, 2022
  138. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2022
  139. Carlo ArenasMay 11, 2022
  140. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2022
  141. 2/3 git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 10, 2022
  142. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2022
  143. Carlo ArenasMay 11, 2022
  144. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2022
  145. 3/3 t0034: add negative tests and allow git init to mostly work under sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 10, 2022
  146. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2022
  147. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2022
  148. Carlo ArenasMay 11, 2022
  149. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2022
  150. 0/4 fix `sudo make install` regression in maintCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 13, 2022
  151. 1/4 t: regression git needs safe.directory when using sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 13, 2022
  152. SZEDER GáborJun 3, 2022
  153. 2/4 git-compat-util: avoid failing dir ownership checks if running privilegedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 13, 2022
  154. SZEDER GáborJun 3, 2022
  155. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2022
  156. SZEDER GáborJun 3, 2022
  157. 3/4 t0034: add negative tests and allow git init to mostly work under sudoCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 13, 2022
  158. Junio C HamanoMay 13, 2022
  159. Carlo ArenasMay 14, 2022
  160. Junio C HamanoMay 15, 2022
  161. Carlo ArenasMay 15, 2022
  162. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2022
  163. Carlo Marcelo Arenas BelónMay 16, 2022
  164. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2022
  165. 4/4 git-compat-util: allow root to access both SUDO_UID and root ownedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, May 13, 2022
  166. Johannes SchindelinJun 15, 2022
  167. Carlo ArenasJun 17, 2022
  168. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2022
  169. git-compat-util: allow root to access both SUDO_UID and root ownedCarlo Marcelo Arenas Belón, Jun 17, 2022
  170. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2022

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