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Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

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5 messages between Feb 18, 2019 and Feb 19, 2019.

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Senol Yazici· Feb 18, 2019, 10:46 UTC · lore
Hi all,
I just stumbled over following page
https://git-scm.com/about/distributed
and was wondering if it is possible to
- demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and
- de-religionise that “blessed” thing

I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against “non religious” developers/users.

Thank you very much,
Senol Yazici
Randall S. Becker· Feb 18, 2019, 16:12 UTC · re: Senol Yazici · lore

RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

On February 18, 2019 5:47, Senol Yazici
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> I just stumbled over following page
> 
> https://git-scm.com/about/distributed
> 
> and was wondering if it is possible to
> 
> - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and
> - de-religionise that “blessed” thing
> 
> I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against “non religious”
> developers/users.
I think there is a point here. In some of my customers, we have replaced these terms with the following (the Repository is optional in the second two):
* Blessed: Repository of Record
* Dictator: Committer [Repository]
* Lieutenant: Contributor [Repository]
This seems more closely aligned with the real roles being applied to activities associated with the repositories involved.
Taking a lesson from other Open Source projects, Jenkins has deprecated Master/Slave in favour of Controller/Agent. This seems not only more acceptable to some, but in my view more descriptive. The terms on the page above do not actually make any descriptive sense to a newbie. And confusion could ensue from the dictionary definitions:
* Lieutenant: an aide or representative of another in the performance of duty : assistant (not what that repository is for)
* Dictator: one holding complete autocratic control : a person with unlimited governmental power (not how the git team behaves)
* Blessed: honored in worship : hallowed; of or enjoying happiness (although I can see the happiness part of this one)

Regards, Randall

Johannes Schindelin· Feb 18, 2019, 20:59 UTC · re: Senol Yazici · lore
Hi,
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Senol Yazici wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I just stumbled over following page
> 
> https://git-scm.com/about/distributed
> 
> and was wondering if it is possible to
> 
> - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and
> - de-religionise that “blessed” thing
> 
> I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against
> “non religious” developers/users.
Those are valid concerns, and I value your feedback.

It would probably be a good thing to change this, and you can even do it yourself: create a Pull Request to change this file:

https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/app/views/about/_distributed.html.erb

Looking forward to your enhancements, Johannes

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> 
> Thank you very much,
> 
> Senol Yazici
> 
Jason Pyeron· Feb 19, 2019, 01:08 UTC · re: Johannes Schindelin · lore

RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johannes Schindelin
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 4:00 PM
> 
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Senol Yazici wrote:
> >
> > I just stumbled over following page
> >
> > https://git-scm.com/about/distributed
> >
> > and was wondering if it is possible to
> >
> > - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and
> > - de-religionise that “blessed” thing
> >
> > I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against
> > “non religious” developers/users.
> 
> Those are valid concerns, and I value your feedback.
> 
> It would probably be a good thing to change this, and you can even do it
> yourself: create a Pull Request to change this file:
> 
> https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/app/views/about/_distributed.html.erb
> 
Curious, where are the sources for the PNGs saved? I did not find any obvious vector or art project files.
-Jason
Johannes Schindelin· Feb 19, 2019, 11:43 UTC · re: Jason Pyeron · lore

Changing https://git-scm.com/about/distributed, was RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

Hi Jason,
let's belatedly fix the incredible misrepresenting subject line.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Jason Pyeron wrote:
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johannes Schindelin
> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 4:00 PM
> > 
> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Senol Yazici wrote:
> > >
> > > I just stumbled over following page
> > >
> > > https://git-scm.com/about/distributed
> > >
> > > and was wondering if it is possible to
> > >
> > > - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and
> > > - de-religionise that “blessed” thing
> > >
> > > I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against
> > > “non religious” developers/users.
> > 
> > Those are valid concerns, and I value your feedback.
> > 
> > It would probably be a good thing to change this, and you can even do it
> > yourself: create a Pull Request to change this file:
> > 
> > https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/app/views/about/_distributed.html.erb
> > 
> 
> Curious, where are the sources for the PNGs saved? I did not find any obvious vector or art project files.

As you can see clearly from that page, the PNG in question is called workflow-c@2x.png and it lives in /images/about/. Using the Ctrl+T trick on GitHub even reveals the location in the repository:

https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/public/images/about/workflow-c@2x.png

Clicking on the History link (https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/commits/master/public/images/about/workflow-c%402x.png) reveals that this file was first committed in https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/commit/e640167a2687eae2d1ed30c5b0d003bfb09e88c3. Since that commit message only talks about adding Retina versions (@2x), let's look at the history of the original PNG: https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/commits/master/public/images/about/workflow-c.png

At some stage of digging, you will invariably figure out that all of the figures come from the ProGit book, the dictator/lieutenant one from https://github.com/progit/progit2/blob/master/images/benevolent-dictator.png

A little more digging would have revealed that those figures are all generated from one file: progit.sketch. Its history: https://github.com/progit/progit2/commits/master/diagram-source/progit.sketch indicates that you need Sketch3 to open/modify that file.

I found that I can open that file on Windows (where Sketch is not supported) using Lunacy from https://icons8.com/lunacy and the diagram in question seems to be on the page 05 - Workflows.

Please note that all of what I described is available publicly, I had no idea about it, all I know is how to use the tools to find out. Which is why I described it so that you can know how to use the tools to answer your questions, too.

Ciao, Johannes

> 
> -Jason
> 
> 

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