# Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) 5 messages from 2019-02-18 to 2019-02-19. Participants: Senol Yazici, Randall S. Becker, Johannes Schindelin, Jason Pyeron. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/50532 ## Senol Yazici, 2019-02-18 10:46 Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/CAFacdQ8NDKfd0p8%3D9Rh3s4FPeS9mbqpQt8mw3AZoJn9jHjriPg%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5c657002.1c69fb81.d433c.32ce.GMR@mx.google.com> ``` Hi all, I just stumbled over following page https://git-scm.com/about/distributed and was wondering if it is possible to - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and - de-religionise that “blessed” thing I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against “non religious” developers/users. Thank you very much, Senol Yazici ``` ## Randall S. Becker, 2019-02-18 16:12 Subject: RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Message-ID: <000b01d4c7a4$ce4db4b0$6ae91e10$@nexbridge.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/000b01d4c7a4%24ce4db4b0%246ae91e10%24%40nexbridge.com In-Reply-To: ``` On February 18, 2019 5:47, Senol Yazici > I just stumbled over following page > > https://git-scm.com/about/distributed > > and was wondering if it is possible to > > - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and > - de-religionise that “blessed” thing > > I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against “non religious” > developers/users. I think there is a point here. In some of my customers, we have replaced these terms with the following (the Repository is optional in the second two): * Blessed: Repository of Record * Dictator: Committer [Repository] * Lieutenant: Contributor [Repository] This seems more closely aligned with the real roles being applied to activities associated with the repositories involved. Taking a lesson from other Open Source projects, Jenkins has deprecated Master/Slave in favour of Controller/Agent. This seems not only more acceptable to some, but in my view more descriptive. The terms on the page above do not actually make any descriptive sense to a newbie. And confusion could ensue from the dictionary definitions: * Lieutenant: an aide or representative of another in the performance of duty : assistant (not what that repository is for) * Dictator: one holding complete autocratic control : a person with unlimited governmental power (not how the git team behaves) * Blessed: honored in worship : hallowed; of or enjoying happiness (although I can see the happiness part of this one) Regards, Randall ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2019-02-18 20:59 Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1902182158040.45%40tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet In-Reply-To: ``` Hi, On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Senol Yazici wrote: > Hi all, > > I just stumbled over following page > > https://git-scm.com/about/distributed > > and was wondering if it is possible to > > - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and > - de-religionise that “blessed” thing > > I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against > “non religious” developers/users. Those are valid concerns, and I value your feedback. It would probably be a good thing to change this, and you can even do it yourself: create a Pull Request to change this file: https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/app/views/about/_distributed.html.erb Looking forward to your enhancements, Johannes > > Thank you very much, > > Senol Yazici > ``` ## Jason Pyeron, 2019-02-19 01:08 Subject: RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Message-ID: <35a401d4c7ef$acf14070$06d3c150$@pdinc.us> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/35a401d4c7ef%24acf14070%2406d3c150%24%40pdinc.us In-Reply-To: ``` > -----Original Message----- > From: Johannes Schindelin > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 4:00 PM > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Senol Yazici wrote: > > > > I just stumbled over following page > > > > https://git-scm.com/about/distributed > > > > and was wondering if it is possible to > > > > - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and > > - de-religionise that “blessed” thing > > > > I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against > > “non religious” developers/users. > > Those are valid concerns, and I value your feedback. > > It would probably be a good thing to change this, and you can even do it > yourself: create a Pull Request to change this file: > > https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/app/views/about/_distributed.html.erb > Curious, where are the sources for the PNGs saved? I did not find any obvious vector or art project files. -Jason ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2019-02-19 11:43 Subject: Changing https://git-scm.com/about/distributed, was RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1902191154560.41%40tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet In-Reply-To: <35a401d4c7ef$acf14070$06d3c150$@pdinc.us> ``` Hi Jason, let's belatedly fix the incredible misrepresenting subject line. On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Jason Pyeron wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Johannes Schindelin > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 4:00 PM > > > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Senol Yazici wrote: > > > > > > I just stumbled over following page > > > > > > https://git-scm.com/about/distributed > > > > > > and was wondering if it is possible to > > > > > > - demilitarise that “dictator/lieutenant” thing and > > > - de-religionise that “blessed” thing > > > > > > I did not had the feeling that git is “pro military”, or is against > > > “non religious” developers/users. > > > > Those are valid concerns, and I value your feedback. > > > > It would probably be a good thing to change this, and you can even do it > > yourself: create a Pull Request to change this file: > > > > https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/app/views/about/_distributed.html.erb > > > > Curious, where are the sources for the PNGs saved? I did not find any obvious vector or art project files. As you can see clearly from that page, the PNG in question is called workflow-c@2x.png and it lives in /images/about/. Using the Ctrl+T trick on GitHub even reveals the location in the repository: https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/blob/master/public/images/about/workflow-c@2x.png Clicking on the History link (https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/commits/master/public/images/about/workflow-c%402x.png) reveals that this file was first committed in https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/commit/e640167a2687eae2d1ed30c5b0d003bfb09e88c3. Since that commit message only talks about adding Retina versions (@2x), let's look at the history of the original PNG: https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/commits/master/public/images/about/workflow-c.png At some stage of digging, you will invariably figure out that all of the figures come from the ProGit book, the dictator/lieutenant one from https://github.com/progit/progit2/blob/master/images/benevolent-dictator.png A little more digging would have revealed that those figures are all generated from one file: progit.sketch. Its history: https://github.com/progit/progit2/commits/master/diagram-source/progit.sketch indicates that you need Sketch3 to open/modify that file. I found that I can open that file on Windows (where Sketch is not supported) using Lunacy from https://icons8.com/lunacy and the diagram in question seems to be on the page 05 - Workflows. Please note that all of what I described is available publicly, I had no idea about it, all I know is how to use the tools to find out. Which is why I described it so that you can know how to use the tools to answer your questions, too. Ciao, Johannes > > -Jason > > ```