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patch, 3 partsl10: de.po: fixes around rebase

Subject: [PATCH 0/3] l10: de.po: fixes around rebase

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Michael J Gruber· May 19, 2015, 08:51 UTC · lore

Fixes to a few issues that I found while running rebase in German locale.

Michael J Gruber (3):
  l10: de.po: grammar fix
  l10: de.po: punctuation fixes
  l10: de.po: translation fix for fall-back to 3way merge

 po/de.po | 8 ++++----
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

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Michael J Gruber· May 19, 2015, 08:51 UTC · re: Michael J Gruber · lore

[PATCH 1/3] l10: de.po: grammar fix

Signed-off-by: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
---
 po/de.po | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

Show changes to po/de.po +1 −1

diff --git a/po/de.po b/po/de.po
index 2feaec1..25258e3 100644
--- a/po/de.po
+++ b/po/de.po
@@ -10478,7 +10478,7 @@ msgstr ""
 #: git-am.sh:142
 msgid "Using index info to reconstruct a base tree..."
 msgstr ""
-"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um einen Basisverzeichnis "
+"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um ein Basisverzeichnis "
 "nachzustellen"
 
 #: git-am.sh:157

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Stefan Beller· May 19, 2015, 21:46 UTC · re: Michael J Gruber · lore

Re: [PATCH 1/3] l10: de.po: grammar fix

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:

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> Signed-off-by: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
> ---
>  po/de.po | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/po/de.po b/po/de.po
> index 2feaec1..25258e3 100644
> --- a/po/de.po
> +++ b/po/de.po
> @@ -10478,7 +10478,7 @@ msgstr ""
>  #: git-am.sh:142
>  msgid "Using index info to reconstruct a base tree..."
>  msgstr ""
> -"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um einen Basisverzeichnis "
> +"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um ein Basisverzeichnis "
>  "nachzustellen"

Waere es sinnvoll Staging-Area in Staging-Bereich umzubenennen? "Staging" ist wohl ein eher fester Term mit dem man den index/staging area assoziert, aber "Area" 'doesn't ring a bell for me'.

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Michael J Gruber· May 20, 2015, 08:55 UTC · re: Stefan Beller · lore

Re: [PATCH 1/3] l10: de.po: grammar fix

Stefan Beller venit, vidit, dixit 19.05.2015 23:46:

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> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Michael J Gruber
> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>> Signed-off-by: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
>> ---
>>  po/de.po | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/po/de.po b/po/de.po
>> index 2feaec1..25258e3 100644
>> --- a/po/de.po
>> +++ b/po/de.po
>> @@ -10478,7 +10478,7 @@ msgstr ""
>>  #: git-am.sh:142
>>  msgid "Using index info to reconstruct a base tree..."
>>  msgstr ""
>> -"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um einen Basisverzeichnis "
>> +"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um ein Basisverzeichnis "
>>  "nachzustellen"
> 
> Waere es sinnvoll Staging-Area in Staging-Bereich umzubenennen?
> "Staging" ist wohl ein eher fester Term mit dem man den index/staging area
> assoziert, aber "Area" 'doesn't ring a bell for me'.

Staging-Bereich would be Denglish - half German and halb Englisch.

In any case, the term staging area is highly confusing in this context: It really is the index, and in this case the user has not "staged anything for commit" in the index. The index is used for storing information during the 3way merge. This is why we refused to replace "index/cache" by "staging area" in the original git documentation.

The de l10n team decided to use "Staging-Area" as the translation for "index" (as far as I can see), and therefore I kept this term: It is important to translate the same concept in the same way consistently in all places. Changing the translation of "index" would be a major decision and a major patch. (I'd vote for "Index".)

Michael

Ralf Thielow· May 21, 2015, 20:27 UTC · re: Michael J Gruber · lore

Re: [PATCH 1/3] l10: de.po: grammar fix

2015-05-20 10:55 GMT+02:00 Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>:

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> Stefan Beller venit, vidit, dixit 19.05.2015 23:46:
>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Michael J Gruber
>> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>>> Signed-off-by: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
>>> ---
>>>  po/de.po | 2 +-
>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/po/de.po b/po/de.po
>>> index 2feaec1..25258e3 100644
>>> --- a/po/de.po
>>> +++ b/po/de.po
>>> @@ -10478,7 +10478,7 @@ msgstr ""
>>>  #: git-am.sh:142
>>>  msgid "Using index info to reconstruct a base tree..."
>>>  msgstr ""
>>> -"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um einen Basisverzeichnis "
>>> +"Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um ein Basisverzeichnis "
>>>  "nachzustellen"
>>
>> Waere es sinnvoll Staging-Area in Staging-Bereich umzubenennen?
>> "Staging" ist wohl ein eher fester Term mit dem man den index/staging area
>> assoziert, aber "Area" 'doesn't ring a bell for me'.
>
> Staging-Bereich would be Denglish - half German and halb Englisch.
>
> In any case, the term staging area is highly confusing in this context:
> It really is the index, and in this case the user has not "staged
> anything for commit" in the index. The index is used for storing
> information during the 3way merge. This is why we refused to replace
> "index/cache" by "staging area" in the original git documentation.
>
> The de l10n team decided to use "Staging-Area" as the translation for
> "index" (as far as I can see), and therefore I kept this term: It is
> important to translate the same concept in the same way consistently in
> all places. Changing the translation of "index" would be a major
> decision and a major patch. (I'd vote for "Index".)
>

The initial version of the glossary of git.git's de.po has been developed in thread [1], where "Index" was part of, initially. We ended up only using "Staging-Area" for "index", because people might understand "Index" as a book's index or database's index [2].

Git itself uses the term "staging area" *very* rarely. "index" would be a Git term we don't translate, but there's also the German word "Index" and hence we might confuse users. However, I still think it may only be confusing for absolute newbies, but give a benefit for users who knows about git's index. I'll send a patch for this change.

Thanks

[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/224132/ [2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/224974

> Michael

Michael J Gruber· May 19, 2015, 08:51 UTC · re: Michael J Gruber · lore

[PATCH 2/3] l10: de.po: punctuation fixes

This respects the ellipsis style used in de.po.

Signed-off-by: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
---
 po/de.po | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

Show changes to po/de.po +2 −2

diff --git a/po/de.po b/po/de.po
index 25258e3..6405f3e 100644
--- a/po/de.po
+++ b/po/de.po
@@ -10479,7 +10479,7 @@ msgstr ""
 msgid "Using index info to reconstruct a base tree..."
 msgstr ""
 "Verwende Informationen aus der Staging-Area, um ein Basisverzeichnis "
-"nachzustellen"
+"nachzustellen ..."
 
 #: git-am.sh:157
 msgid ""
@@ -10495,7 +10495,7 @@ msgstr "Falle zurück zum Patchen der Basis und des 3-Wege-Merges ..."
 
 #: git-am.sh:182
 msgid "Failed to merge in the changes."
-msgstr "Merge der Änderungen fehlgeschlagen"
+msgstr "Merge der Änderungen fehlgeschlagen."
 
 #: git-am.sh:277
 msgid "Only one StGIT patch series can be applied at once"

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Michael J Gruber· May 19, 2015, 08:51 UTC · re: Michael J Gruber · lore

[PATCH 3/3] l10: de.po: translation fix for fall-back to 3way merge

The English version is correct, but misleading: It is not the 3way merge that is being patched also, but that is being fallen back to also.

The German version translates the former meaning. Make it translate the latter.

Signed-off-by: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
---

Notes:
    Really, it would be clearer to say "mittels 3-Wege-Merge", and
    also "using 3way merge" in the original (rather than "and").
    But I tried to stay as close as possible to both the English version
    and the existing translation.

 po/de.po | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

Show changes to po/de.po +1 −1

diff --git a/po/de.po b/po/de.po
index 6405f3e..b9eaa82 100644
--- a/po/de.po
+++ b/po/de.po
@@ -10491,7 +10491,7 @@ msgstr ""
 
 #: git-am.sh:166
 msgid "Falling back to patching base and 3-way merge..."
-msgstr "Falle zurück zum Patchen der Basis und des 3-Wege-Merges ..."
+msgstr "Falle zurück zum Patchen der Basis und zum 3-Wege-Merge ..."
 
 #: git-am.sh:182
 msgid "Failed to merge in the changes."

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Ralf Thielow· May 19, 2015, 16:26 UTC · re: Michael J Gruber · lore

Re: [PATCH 0/3] l10: de.po: fixes around rebase

2015-05-19 10:51 GMT+02:00 Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>:

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> Fixes to a few issues that I found while running rebase
> in German locale.
>
> Michael J Gruber (3):
>   l10: de.po: grammar fix
>   l10: de.po: punctuation fixes
>   l10: de.po: translation fix for fall-back to 3way merge
>

Thanks!

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>  po/de.po | 8 ++++----
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.4.0.rc3.332.g886447c
>