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Planet git USELESS

Subject: Planet git USELESS

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8 messages between Feb 27, 2009 and Feb 27, 2009.

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Quim K Holland· Feb 27, 2009, 10:02 UTC · lore

Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and I hoped to find something useful but there are only two dudes listed there. How strange nobody from this project blogs about what he is doing.

If you keep a planet site, make it useful for the rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!

Sverre Rabbelier· Feb 27, 2009, 10:17 UTC · re: Quim K Holland · lore

Re: Planet git USELESS

Heya,
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:02, Quim K Holland <qkholland@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you keep a planet site, make it useful for the rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!

If you write a message to a mailinglist make sure you add some value. Your remark, I would say, is equally useless. Even so, I am not forced to read planet git, whereas your message pops up in my inbox. You should instead have either contacted the owner of planetgit directly, or in some way added some value to your message (such as offering to add more contributors, or perhaps include the urls of the feeds of more git related blogs).

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Cheers,

Sverre Rabbelier
Johannes Schindelin· Feb 27, 2009, 10:33 UTC · re: Quim K Holland · lore

Re: Planet git USELESS

Hi,
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Quim K Holland wrote:
> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and
Maybe you wanted to look at planetgi.org (judging from your To: header)?
> I hoped to find something useful but there are
> only two dudes listed there. How strange nobody from
> this project blogs about what he is doing.

There are more people blogging about what they are doing. Me, for example.

> If you keep a planet site, make it useful for
> the rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!
I do not want to keep a planet site.

And after reading your mail, I do not feel more inclined to make anything more useful for you to read, REALLY!!!!

Hth, Dscho

Michael J Gruber· Feb 27, 2009, 14:59 UTC · re: Johannes Schindelin · lore

Re: Planet git USELESS

Johannes Schindelin venit, vidit, dixit 27.02.2009 11:33:
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> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Quim K Holland wrote:
> 
>> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and
> 
> Maybe you wanted to look at planetgi.org (judging from your To: header)?
;)

I think his Gi was not strong today, and he may be lacking some Fu in general. At least he's got plenty of CAPS...

Or is he asking the GIs to get after us?
Michael
Johannes Schindelin· Feb 27, 2009, 15:52 UTC · re: Michael J Gruber · lore

Re: Planet git USELESS

Hi,
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Michael J Gruber wrote:
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> Johannes Schindelin venit, vidit, dixit 27.02.2009 11:33:
> 
> > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Quim K Holland wrote:
> > 
> >> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and
> > 
> > Maybe you wanted to look at planetgi.org (judging from your To: header)?
> 
> ;)
> 
> I think his Gi was not strong today, and he may be lacking some Fu in
> general. At least he's got plenty of CAPS...
> 
> Or is he asking the GIs to get after us?
I see you got your share of fun during Carneval ;-)

But seriously, I think Quim has gotten his share of replies. So let's be nice again, and give him another chance.

Ciao, Dscho

Theodore Tso· Feb 27, 2009, 14:11 UTC · re: Quim K Holland · lore

Re: Planet git USELESS

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 04:02:59PM +0600, Quim K Holland wrote:
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> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and
> I hoped to find something useful but there are
> only two dudes listed there. How strange nobody from
> this project blogs about what he is doing.
> 
> If you keep a planet site, make it useful for
> the rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!

Your mistake is in assuming that the folks who set up the planetgit.org site are talking to the git developers on this list; anyone can set up a domain name, "planet<foo>.org", without necessarily being officially tied to project <foo>.

The planetgit.org site does say that people who want to be added to the site should contact webmaster@planetgit.org; you might want to do the same if you're not satisified with the content on that site.

I also suspect that you might have gotten a more positive reaction if you said something along the lines of "hey, there seems to be this planetgit.org site which isn't tracking a lot of blogs; could some of the git developers consider sending their rss feed to webmaster@planetgit.org so they can track your blog entries?"

Instead, you sound like a demanding *sshole, and people generally don't respond well to that.

Best regards,
					- Ted

P.S. Now I have to decide on my own whether or not I should ask planetgit.org to add http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/category/computers/linux/source-code-management/git/feed to planet git. The question is whether to reward impoliteness or not (which is a bad thing), factored against trying to make planetgit.org more useful (which is a good thing).

Johannes Gilger· Feb 27, 2009, 14:39 UTC · re: Theodore Tso · lore

Re: Planet git USELESS

On 2009-02-27, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> Your mistake is in assuming that the folks who set up the
> planetgit.org site are talking to the git developers on this list;
> anyone can set up a domain name, "planet<foo>.org", without
> necessarily being officially tied to project <foo>.
Ok, to wrap up an (imho) unnecessary discussion:

planetgit.org was announced on this ML a while back, a few people replied, I wrote the webmaster and had my blog added (but noone else seems to have done so). It's a shame should the domain and already setup planet go to waste.

I'd suggest for the webmaster to simply start adding git-related blogs until someone complains ;). Or at least start adding the sites which are purely devoted to git, and not the personal blogs with a git-category. People will only start adding their blog if they see some content already there I suppose, while others simply are too lazy to write the webmaster or dont see the point.

If someone strongly strongly objects simply adding weblogs please let me know, but I think it might be worth a try to bring the planet to life ;)

Greetings, Jojo

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Junio C Hamano· Feb 27, 2009, 17:33 UTC · re: Theodore Tso · lore

Re: Planet git USELESS

Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
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> I also suspect that you might have gotten a more positive reaction if
> you said something along the lines of "hey, there seems to be this
> planetgit.org site which isn't tracking a lot of blogs; could some of
> the git developers consider sending their rss feed to
> webmaster@planetgit.org so they can track your blog entries?"
Very nicely put.

My initial reaction was "Heh, I am not affiliated with that site. Why is this mail addressed to me?" and I was about to say something nasty back, but reading your reply before I acted helped me avoid an embarrassment.

Thank you for always being a calm and reasoned participant in discussions ;-).

I was hoping that the planet thing to become a useful site when it was announced, but it turns out that I actually have to agree with the "useless" part of the subject. I look for 'git' tag in delicious these days instead.

I think part of the reason the planet failed was that whoever runs that planet didn't do anything other than announcing it; it might have gained momentum if he or she did some active recruiting to prime it well before going online.

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