{"thread":{"id":"18044","subject":"Planet git USELESS","startedAt":"2009-02-27T10:02:59Z","lastAt":"2009-02-27T17:33:10Z","messageCount":8,"participants":["Quim K Holland","Sverre Rabbelier","Johannes Schindelin","Theodore Tso","Johannes Gilger","Michael J Gruber","Junio C Hamano"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"106418","messageId":"20090227160259.6117@qkholland.gmail.com","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Quim K Holland","fromEmail":"qkholland@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-02-27T10:02:59Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T10:02:59Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"qkholland@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and\nI hoped to find something useful but there are\nonly two dudes listed there. How strange nobody from\nthis project blogs about what he is doing.\n\nIf you keep a planet site, make it useful for\nthe rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!\n"},{"id":"106419","messageId":"fabb9a1e0902270217v48da139oe7a9ddebfebee793@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":"20090227160259.6117@qkholland.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Sverre Rabbelier","fromEmail":"srabbelier@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-02-27T10:17:55Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T10:17:55Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"srabbelier@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3098?v=4"},"body":"Heya,\n\nOn Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:02, Quim K Holland wrote:\n> If you keep a planet site, make it useful for the rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!\n\nIf you write a message to a mailinglist make sure you add some value.\nYour remark, I would say, is equally useless. Even so, I am not forced\nto read planet git, whereas your message pops up in my inbox. You\nshould instead have either contacted the owner of planetgit directly,\nor in some way added some value to your message (such as offering to\nadd more contributors, or perhaps include the urls of the feeds of\nmore git related blogs).\n\n-- \nCheers,\n\nSverre Rabbelier\n"},{"id":"106421","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0902271132000.6600@intel-tinevez-2-302","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":"20090227160259.6117@qkholland.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2009-02-27T10:33:59Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T10:33:59Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Quim K Holland wrote:\n\n> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and\n\nMaybe you wanted to look at planetgi.org (judging from your To: header)?\n\n> I hoped to find something useful but there are\n> only two dudes listed there. How strange nobody from\n> this project blogs about what he is doing.\n\nThere are more people blogging about what they are doing. Me, for \nexample.\n\n> If you keep a planet site, make it useful for\n> the rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!\n\nI do not want to keep a planet site.\n\nAnd after reading your mail, I do not feel more inclined to make anything \nmore useful for you to read, REALLY!!!!\n\nHth,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"106434","messageId":"20090227141104.GE6791@mit.edu","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":"20090227160259.6117@qkholland.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Theodore Tso","fromEmail":"tytso@mit.edu","sentAt":"2009-02-27T14:11:04Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T14:11:04Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"tytso@mit.edu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/51416?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 04:02:59PM +0600, Quim K Holland wrote:\n> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and\n> I hoped to find something useful but there are\n> only two dudes listed there. How strange nobody from\n> this project blogs about what he is doing.\n> \n> If you keep a planet site, make it useful for\n> the rest of us to read, REALLY!!!!\n\nYour mistake is in assuming that the folks who set up the\nplanetgit.org site are talking to the git developers on this list;\nanyone can set up a domain name, \"planet.org\", without\nnecessarily being officially tied to project .\n\nThe planetgit.org site does say that people who want to be added to\nthe site should contact webmaster@planetgit.org; you might want to do\nthe same if you're not satisified with the content on that site.\n\nI also suspect that you might have gotten a more positive reaction if\nyou said something along the lines of \"hey, there seems to be this\nplanetgit.org site which isn't tracking a lot of blogs; could some of\nthe git developers consider sending their rss feed to\nwebmaster@planetgit.org so they can track your blog entries?\"\n\nInstead, you sound like a demanding *sshole, and people generally\ndon't respond well to that.\n\nBest regards,\n\n\t\t\t\t\t- Ted\n\nP.S. Now I have to decide on my own whether or not I should ask\nplanetgit.org to add\nhttp://thunk.org/tytso/blog/category/computers/linux/source-code-management/git/feed\nto planet git. The question is whether to reward impoliteness or not\n(which is a bad thing), factored against trying to make planetgit.org\nmore useful (which is a good thing).\n"},{"id":"106436","messageId":"slrngqfup1.3rc.heipei@minime.lan","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":"20090227141104.GE6791@mit.edu","subject":"Re: Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Johannes Gilger","fromEmail":"heipei@hackvalue.de","sentAt":"2009-02-27T14:39:20Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T14:39:20Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"heipei@hackvalue.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6072?v=4"},"body":"On 2009-02-27, Theodore Tso wrote:\n> Your mistake is in assuming that the folks who set up the\n> planetgit.org site are talking to the git developers on this list;\n> anyone can set up a domain name, \"planet.org\", without\n> necessarily being officially tied to project .\n\nOk, to wrap up an (imho) unnecessary discussion:\n\nplanetgit.org was announced on this ML a while back, a few people \nreplied, I wrote the webmaster and had my blog added (but noone else \nseems to have done so). It's a shame should the domain and already setup \nplanet go to waste.\n\nI'd suggest for the webmaster to simply start adding git-related blogs \nuntil someone complains ;). Or at least start adding the sites which are \npurely devoted to git, and not the personal blogs with a git-category. \nPeople will only start adding their blog if they see some content \nalready there I suppose, while others simply are too lazy to write the \nwebmaster or dont see the point.\n\nIf someone strongly strongly objects simply adding weblogs please let me \nknow, but I think it might be worth a try to bring the planet to life ;)\n\nGreetings,\nJojo\n\n-- \nJohannes Gilger \nhttp://hackvalue.de/heipei/\nGPG-Key: 0x42F6DE81\nGPG-Fingerprint: BB49 F967 775E BB52 3A81 882C 58EE B178 42F6 DE81\n"},{"id":"106439","messageId":"49A7FFC0.8000000@drmicha.warpmail.net","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0902271132000.6600@intel-tinevez-2-302","subject":"Re: Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Michael J Gruber","fromEmail":"git@drmicha.warpmail.net","sentAt":"2009-02-27T14:59:12Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T14:59:12Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"git@grubix.eu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/233215?v=4"},"body":"Johannes Schindelin venit, vidit, dixit 27.02.2009 11:33:\n> Hi,\n> \n> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Quim K Holland wrote:\n> \n>> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and\n> \n> Maybe you wanted to look at planetgi.org (judging from your To: header)?\n\n;)\n\nI think his Gi was not strong today, and he may be lacking some Fu in\ngeneral. At least he's got plenty of CAPS...\n\nOr is he asking the GIs to get after us?\n\nMichael\n"},{"id":"106442","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0902271651370.6600@intel-tinevez-2-302","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":"49A7FFC0.8000000@drmicha.warpmail.net","subject":"Re: Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2009-02-27T15:52:32Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T15:52:32Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Michael J Gruber wrote:\n\n> Johannes Schindelin venit, vidit, dixit 27.02.2009 11:33:\n> \n> > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Quim K Holland wrote:\n> > \n> >> Hey, I looked at http://planetgit.org/ site and\n> > \n> > Maybe you wanted to look at planetgi.org (judging from your To: header)?\n> \n> ;)\n> \n> I think his Gi was not strong today, and he may be lacking some Fu in\n> general. At least he's got plenty of CAPS...\n> \n> Or is he asking the GIs to get after us?\n\nI see you got your share of fun during Carneval ;-)\n\nBut seriously, I think Quim has gotten his share of replies. So let's be \nnice again, and give him another chance.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"106448","messageId":"7v63ivlr8p.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"18044","inReplyTo":"20090227141104.GE6791@mit.edu","subject":"Re: Planet git USELESS","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2009-02-27T17:33:10Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-27T17:33:10Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Theodore Tso writes:\n\n> I also suspect that you might have gotten a more positive reaction if\n> you said something along the lines of \"hey, there seems to be this\n> planetgit.org site which isn't tracking a lot of blogs; could some of\n> the git developers consider sending their rss feed to\n> webmaster@planetgit.org so they can track your blog entries?\"\n\nVery nicely put.\n\nMy initial reaction was \"Heh, I am not affiliated with that site. Why is\nthis mail addressed to me?\" and I was about to say something nasty back,\nbut reading your reply before I acted helped me avoid an embarrassment.\n\nThank you for always being a calm and reasoned participant in discussions\n;-).\n\nI was hoping that the planet thing to become a useful site when it was\nannounced, but it turns out that I actually have to agree with the\n\"useless\" part of the subject. I look for 'git' tag in delicious these\ndays instead.\n\nI think part of the reason the planet failed was that whoever runs that\nplanet didn't do anything other than announcing it; it might have gained\nmomentum if he or she did some active recruiting to prime it well before\ngoing online.\n"}]}