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patch, 2 partsGoogle has renamed the imap folder

Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

## tl;dr

6 messages between Feb 17, 2009 and Feb 17, 2009. Diffs are folded; open one to read it.

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John Tapsell· Feb 17, 2009, 10:12 UTC · lore
Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines
Signed-off-by: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/SubmittingPatches |   10 +++++++++-
 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
Show changes to Documentation/SubmittingPatches +9 −1
diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
index 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644
--- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
+++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
@@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.
 Gmail
 -----
 
+GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web
+interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send.  You can however
+use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward
+the emails through that.  Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that
+email client.
+
 Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that
 IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your
 account settings:
 
 [imap]
-	folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
+	folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
 	host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
 	user = user@gmail.com
 	pass = p4ssw0rd
@@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.
 
 Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill
 in the To: and CC: fields and send away!
+If you get an error that the "Folder doesn't exist" try with folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts".
+
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1.6.2.rc1
Junio C Hamano· Feb 17, 2009, 18:39 UTC · re: John Tapsell · lore

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com> writes:
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> Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines
>
> Signed-off-by: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/SubmittingPatches |   10 +++++++++-
>  1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> index 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> +++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> @@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.
>  Gmail
>  -----
>  
> +GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web
> +interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send.  You can however
> +use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward
> +the emails through that.  Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that
> +email client.
> +
>  Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that
>  IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your
>  account settings:
>  
>  [imap]
> -	folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
> +	folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
>  	host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
>  	user = user@gmail.com
>  	pass = p4ssw0rd
> @@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.
>  
>  Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill
>  in the To: and CC: fields and send away!
> +If you get an error that the "Folder doesn't exist" try with folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts".
> +

Are there any Gmail insiders who can comment on this alleged change? Is it for everybody? Is it only for new accounts? If I ask google about "gmail imap draft folder", I seem to be getting '[Gmail]/Drafts' version, and not the '[Google Mail]/Drafts' version, e.g.

    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78892
    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=82367

It is not that I think John is talking BS. If there is a transition of some sort, we may want to keep the more prevalent one in the main example, while suggesting minority one as a ballback altenative.

Shawn O. Pearce· Feb 17, 2009, 18:54 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com> writes:
> >  
> >  [imap]
> > -	folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
> > +	folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
> >  	host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
> >  	user = user@gmail.com
> >  	pass = p4ssw0rd
> > @@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.
> >  
> >  Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill
> >  in the To: and CC: fields and send away!
> > +If you get an error that the "Folder doesn't exist" try with folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts".
> > +
> 
> Are there any Gmail insiders who can comment on this alleged change?  Is
> it for everybody?  Is it only for new accounts?  If I ask google about
> "gmail imap draft folder", I seem to be getting '[Gmail]/Drafts' version,
> and not the '[Google Mail]/Drafts' version, e.g.
> 
>     http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78892
>     http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=82367
<add item="hat" type="googler">
Yea, the official public docs you link to say [Gmail]/Drafts.

I can't find any proof either way that we're using one or the other format going forward. Yes, I did look at stuff that is only on our internal network. I can't draw any conclusions from what I was able to find and read.

</add>

So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective, I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.

-- 
Shawn.
Sverre Rabbelier· Feb 17, 2009, 19:04 UTC · re: Shawn O. Pearce · lore

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
> So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective,
> I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.

In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are "Google Mail" branded rather than "Gmail" branded (I think Germany and the UK are good examples?) have the "[Google Mail]/Drafts" folder, and regular countries will keep using "[GMail]/Drafts"?

-- 
Cheers,

Sverre Rabbelier
Shawn O. Pearce· Feb 17, 2009, 19:16 UTC · re: Sverre Rabbelier · lore

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
> > So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective,
> > I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.
> 
> In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are "Google
> Mail" branded rather than "Gmail" branded (I think Germany and the UK
> are good examples?) have the "[Google Mail]/Drafts" folder, and
> regular countries will keep using "[GMail]/Drafts"?
Doh, that may very well be the issue here.

I didn't realize Gmail was branded differently in some countries. But I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. And if it did, then I'd expect it to follow through in everything, including the IMAP folder names.

In which case, [Gmail]/Drafts is probably the more common one seen in the wild by users, but a handful in the "other places" may see [Google Mail]/Drafts.

-- 
Shawn.
John Tapsell· Feb 17, 2009, 23:14 UTC · re: Shawn O. Pearce · lore

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

2009/2/18 Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>:
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> Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
>> > So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective,
>> > I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.
>>
>> In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are "Google
>> Mail" branded rather than "Gmail" branded (I think Germany and the UK
>> are good examples?) have the "[Google Mail]/Drafts" folder, and
>> regular countries will keep using "[GMail]/Drafts"?
>
> Doh, that may very well be the issue here.
>
> I didn't realize Gmail was branded differently in some countries.
> But I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.  And if it did, then
> I'd expect it to follow through in everything, including the IMAP
> folder names.

They were sued in the UK by a company that had already registered the trademark "gmail" iirc, which is probably why they are using Google Mail here.

I think leaving it as GMail is a sensible idea, adding the comment to try Google Mail at the bottom.

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> In which case, [Gmail]/Drafts is probably the more common one
> seen in the wild by users, but a handful in the "other places"
> may see [Google Mail]/Drafts.
>
> --
> Shawn.
>

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