{"thread":{"id":"17851","subject":"[PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder","startedAt":"2009-02-17T10:12:15Z","lastAt":"2009-02-17T23:14:25Z","messageCount":6,"participants":["John Tapsell","Junio C Hamano","Shawn O. Pearce","Sverre Rabbelier"],"isPatch":true,"patchVersion":1,"patchTotal":2},"messages":[{"id":"105118","messageId":"200902171012.15755.johnflux@gmail.com","threadId":"17851","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"[PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder","fromName":"John Tapsell","fromEmail":"johnflux@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-02-17T10:12:15Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-17T10:12:15Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"johnflux@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/25f70d4c0f96396b84a2e34bcd9bdc233462c7b4be29b5fdca8266fc53f30b0c?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines\n\nSigned-off-by: John Tapsell \n---\n Documentation/SubmittingPatches | 10 +++++++++-\n 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)\n\ndiff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches\nindex 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644\n--- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches\n+++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches\n@@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.\n Gmail\n -----\n \n+GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web\n+interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send. You can however\n+use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward\n+the emails through that. Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that\n+email client.\n+\n Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that\n IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your\n account settings:\n \n [imap]\n-\tfolder = \"[Gmail]/Drafts\"\n+\tfolder = \"[Google Mail]/Drafts\"\n \thost = imaps://imap.gmail.com\n \tuser = user@gmail.com\n \tpass = p4ssw0rd\n@@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.\n \n Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill\n in the To: and CC: fields and send away!\n+If you get an error that the \"Folder doesn't exist\" try with folder = \"[Gmail]/Drafts\".\n+\n-- \n1.6.2.rc1\n"},{"id":"105201","messageId":"7vprhg52ne.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"17851","inReplyTo":"200902171012.15755.johnflux@gmail.com","subject":"Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2009-02-17T18:39:17Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-17T18:39:17Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"John Tapsell writes:\n\n> Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines\n>\n> Signed-off-by: John Tapsell \n> ---\n> Documentation/SubmittingPatches | 10 +++++++++-\n> 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)\n>\n> diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches\n> index 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644\n> --- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches\n> +++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches\n> @@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.\n> Gmail\n> -----\n> \n> +GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web\n> +interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send. You can however\n> +use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward\n> +the emails through that. Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that\n> +email client.\n> +\n> Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that\n> IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your\n> account settings:\n> \n> [imap]\n> -\tfolder = \"[Gmail]/Drafts\"\n> +\tfolder = \"[Google Mail]/Drafts\"\n> \thost = imaps://imap.gmail.com\n> \tuser = user@gmail.com\n> \tpass = p4ssw0rd\n> @@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.\n> \n> Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill\n> in the To: and CC: fields and send away!\n> +If you get an error that the \"Folder doesn't exist\" try with folder = \"[Gmail]/Drafts\".\n> +\n\nAre there any Gmail insiders who can comment on this alleged change? Is\nit for everybody? Is it only for new accounts? If I ask google about\n\"gmail imap draft folder\", I seem to be getting '[Gmail]/Drafts' version,\nand not the '[Google Mail]/Drafts' version, e.g.\n\n http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78892\n http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=82367\n\nIt is not that I think John is talking BS. If there is a transition of\nsome sort, we may want to keep the more prevalent one in the main example,\nwhile suggesting minority one as a ballback altenative.\n"},{"id":"105202","messageId":"20090217185423.GK18525@spearce.org","threadId":"17851","inReplyTo":"7vprhg52ne.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","subject":"Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-02-17T18:54:23Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-17T18:54:23Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> John Tapsell writes:\n> > \n> > [imap]\n> > -\tfolder = \"[Gmail]/Drafts\"\n> > +\tfolder = \"[Google Mail]/Drafts\"\n> > \thost = imaps://imap.gmail.com\n> > \tuser = user@gmail.com\n> > \tpass = p4ssw0rd\n> > @@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.\n> > \n> > Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill\n> > in the To: and CC: fields and send away!\n> > +If you get an error that the \"Folder doesn't exist\" try with folder = \"[Gmail]/Drafts\".\n> > +\n> \n> Are there any Gmail insiders who can comment on this alleged change? Is\n> it for everybody? Is it only for new accounts? If I ask google about\n> \"gmail imap draft folder\", I seem to be getting '[Gmail]/Drafts' version,\n> and not the '[Google Mail]/Drafts' version, e.g.\n> \n> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78892\n> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=82367\n\n\n\n\nYea, the official public docs you link to say [Gmail]/Drafts.\n\nI can't find any proof either way that we're using one or the\nother format going forward. Yes, I did look at stuff that is\nonly on our internal network. I can't draw any conclusions\nfrom what I was able to find and read.\n\n\n\nSo there's your \"Gmail insider\", at least from my perspective,\nI really can't confirm either way any better than you can.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"105204","messageId":"bd6139dc0902171104x55637f8fr87a9f56154a7b45a@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17851","inReplyTo":"20090217185423.GK18525@spearce.org","subject":"Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder","fromName":"Sverre Rabbelier","fromEmail":"srabbelier@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-02-17T19:04:07Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-17T19:04:07Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"srabbelier@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3098?v=4"},"body":"On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> So there's your \"Gmail insider\", at least from my perspective,\n> I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.\n\nIn that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are \"Google\nMail\" branded rather than \"Gmail\" branded (I think Germany and the UK\nare good examples?) have the \"[Google Mail]/Drafts\" folder, and\nregular countries will keep using \"[GMail]/Drafts\"?\n\n-- \nCheers,\n\nSverre Rabbelier\n"},{"id":"105205","messageId":"20090217191618.GL18525@spearce.org","threadId":"17851","inReplyTo":"bd6139dc0902171104x55637f8fr87a9f56154a7b45a@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-02-17T19:16:18Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-17T19:16:18Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Sverre Rabbelier wrote:\n> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > So there's your \"Gmail insider\", at least from my perspective,\n> > I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.\n> \n> In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are \"Google\n> Mail\" branded rather than \"Gmail\" branded (I think Germany and the UK\n> are good examples?) have the \"[Google Mail]/Drafts\" folder, and\n> regular countries will keep using \"[GMail]/Drafts\"?\n\nDoh, that may very well be the issue here.\n\nI didn't realize Gmail was branded differently in some countries.\nBut I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. And if it did, then\nI'd expect it to follow through in everything, including the IMAP\nfolder names.\n\nIn which case, [Gmail]/Drafts is probably the more common one\nseen in the wild by users, but a handful in the \"other places\"\nmay see [Google Mail]/Drafts.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"105236","messageId":"43d8ce650902171514w7b2a5b69y96f0674ce9b38c0a@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17851","inReplyTo":"20090217191618.GL18525@spearce.org","subject":"Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder","fromName":"John Tapsell","fromEmail":"johnflux@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-02-17T23:14:25Z","receivedAt":"2009-02-17T23:14:25Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"johnflux@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/25f70d4c0f96396b84a2e34bcd9bdc233462c7b4be29b5fdca8266fc53f30b0c?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"2009/2/18 Shawn O. Pearce :\n> Sverre Rabbelier wrote:\n>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n>> > So there's your \"Gmail insider\", at least from my perspective,\n>> > I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.\n>>\n>> In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are \"Google\n>> Mail\" branded rather than \"Gmail\" branded (I think Germany and the UK\n>> are good examples?) have the \"[Google Mail]/Drafts\" folder, and\n>> regular countries will keep using \"[GMail]/Drafts\"?\n>\n> Doh, that may very well be the issue here.\n>\n> I didn't realize Gmail was branded differently in some countries.\n> But I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. And if it did, then\n> I'd expect it to follow through in everything, including the IMAP\n> folder names.\n\nThey were sued in the UK by a company that had already registered the\ntrademark \"gmail\" iirc, which is probably why they are using Google\nMail here.\n\nI think leaving it as GMail is a sensible idea, adding the comment to\ntry Google Mail at the bottom.\n\n> In which case, [Gmail]/Drafts is probably the more common one\n> seen in the wild by users, but a handful in the \"other places\"\n> may see [Google Mail]/Drafts.\n>\n> --\n> Shawn.\n>\n"}]}