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Re: [PATCH] fetch: add --no-update-remote-refs

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Jan 17, 2020, 19:13 UTC
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"Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
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> From: Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
>
> To prevent long blocking time during a 'git fetch' call, a user
> may want to set up a schedule for background 'git fetch' processes.
> However, these runs will update the refs/remotes branches, and
> hence the user will not notice when remote refs are updated during
> their foreground fetches. In fact, they may _want_ those refs to
> stay put so they can work with the refs from their last foreground
> fetch call.

I've always hated anything that makes the remote-tracking refs "float" and surprise end users. I even hated that 'git push' that pretends as if we immediately turned around and fetched from the remote we just pushed when it was introduced, even though I gave up by now.

So I am OK in principle to make it more difficult to update refs/remotes/* while the end-user is looking the other way, but I had to wonder why "git fetch" is even being done if it is done to silently update/catch-up remote-tracking branches automatically in the first place.

This is more like a "preload" option---without updating the end-user visible set of remote-tracking branches, you can make the data available earlier so that the actual "fetch" the end-user runs in order to update the remote-tracking branches can complete faster and become ready to be used more quickly.

Which makes sense.
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> Add a --[no-]update-remote-refs option to 'git fetch' which defaults
> to the existing behavior of updating the remote refs. This allows
> a user to run
>
>   git fetch <remote> --no-update-remote-refs +refs/heads/*:refs/hidden/*
>
> to populate a custom ref space and download a pack of the new
> reachable objects.

Hmph. I have to wonder if this should have been the default. That is, when refs/heads/X on the remote is configured to be copied to refs/remotes/origin/X on this side, and an explicit refspec says it should go some other place (i.e. refs/hidden/X), shouldn't that automatically bypass configured +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* refspec? In any case, it is too late to change that now.

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> This kind of call allows a few things to happen:
>
> 1. We download a new pack if refs have updated.
> 2. Since the refs/hidden branches exist, GC will not remove the
>    newly-downloaded data.

Caution. Since you didn't make it "refs/hidden/<remote>/*", you just made the data you fetched the same way with this shiny new "--no-update-remote-tracking-branches" option from another remote unanchored and susceptible to GCs.

> 3. With fetch.writeCommitGraph enabled, the refs/hidden refs are
>    used to update the commit-graph file.

I have a moderately strong suspicion that it would be better to make this "--ignore-configured-refspecs" and implemented without special casign the "refs/remotes/" hierarchy like the code does by hardcoding.

I also wonder if auto-following of tags should be disabled at the same time. I have no good argument either way (yet).

Thanks.
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  1. fetch: add --no-update-remote-refsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Jan 17, 2020
  2. Eric SunshineJan 17, 2020
  3. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2020
  4. Jeff KingJan 17, 2020
  5. Derrick StoleeJan 20, 2020
  6. Jeff KingJan 17, 2020
  7. Derrick StoleeJan 21, 2020
  8. fetch: document and test --refmap=""Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Jan 21, 2020
  9. Jeff KingJan 21, 2020
  10. Derrick StoleeJan 21, 2020
  11. Jeff KingJan 21, 2020
  12. Junio C HamanoJan 21, 2020
  13. Junio C HamanoJan 21, 2020

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