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Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] Optionally skip linking/copying the built-ins

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Aug 26, 2020, 16:20 UTC
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"Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:

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> From: Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
>
> For a long time already, the non-dashed form of the built-ins is the
> recommended way to write scripts, i.e. it is better to call `git merge
> [...]` than to call `git-merge [...]`.
>
> While Git still supports the dashed form (by hard-linking the `git`
> executable to the dashed name in `libexec/git-core/`), in practice, it
> is probably almost irrelevant.

Let's drop this paragraph. We do not have to defend this new opt-in feature with "probably". Even if there are folks heavily depend on the old promise of having all binaries on disk, giving the rest of the world an option to have Git without that promise is a good thing as long as there is a good reason why the rest of the world would want to omit binaries for builtins. And we do have a good one below.

> However, we *do* care about keeping people's scripts working (even if
> they were written before the non-dashed form started to be recommended).

That misses the point. They were written in dashed form, and when we started recommending non-dashed form, they were TOLD to tweak it by adjusting PATH early in their script, and they did so to keep the script working. So it is not "even if". We do care because we promised them that we will *NOT* break them if they did such and such, and they followed that recommendation.

> Keeping this backwards-compatibility is not necessarily cheap, though:
> ...
> introduce a Makefile knob to skip generating them.

I do not have anything add to the good argument above (elided) to allow those who know they do not rely on the age old promise. Well written.

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  1. 0/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin, Aug 17, 2020
  2. 2/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin, Aug 17, 2020
  3. Junio C HamanoAug 17, 2020
  4. Johannes SchindelinAug 24, 2020
  5. 1/3 msvc: copy the correct `.pdb` files in the Makefile target `install`Johannes Schindelin, Aug 17, 2020
  6. Jeff KingAug 17, 2020
  7. Johannes SchindelinAug 17, 2020
  8. Jeff KingAug 17, 2020
  9. Johannes SchindelinAug 18, 2020
  10. 3/3 ci: stop linking built-ins to the dashed versionsJohannes Schindelin, Aug 17, 2020
  11. Junio C HamanoAug 17, 2020
  12. Johannes SchindelinAug 17, 2020
  13. Junio C HamanoAug 17, 2020
  14. Johannes SchindelinAug 24, 2020
  15. Junio C HamanoAug 24, 2020
  16. Johannes SchindelinAug 25, 2020
  17. Junio C HamanoAug 25, 2020
  18. 0/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 24, 2020
  19. 2/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 24, 2020
  20. Junio C HamanoAug 24, 2020
  21. Johannes SchindelinAug 25, 2020
  22. 3/3 ci: stop linking built-ins to the dashed versionsJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 24, 2020
  23. Junio C HamanoAug 24, 2020
  24. Johannes SchindelinAug 25, 2020
  25. SZEDER GáborAug 25, 2020
  26. Junio C HamanoAug 25, 2020
  27. Johannes SchindelinAug 26, 2020
  28. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2020
  29. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2020
  30. Johannes SchindelinSep 2, 2020
  31. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2020
  32. SZEDER GáborAug 27, 2020
  33. 1/3 msvc: copy the correct `.pdb` files in the Makefile target `install`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 24, 2020
  34. Junio C HamanoAug 24, 2020
  35. Jeff KingAug 24, 2020
  36. Junio C HamanoAug 24, 2020
  37. 0/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 26, 2020
  38. 1/3 msvc: copy the correct `.pdb` files in the Makefile target `install`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 26, 2020
  39. 3/3 ci: stop linking built-ins to the dashed versionsJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 26, 2020
  40. SZEDER GáborSep 3, 2020
  41. Johannes SchindelinSep 8, 2020
  42. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2020
  43. SZEDER GáborSep 8, 2020
  44. 2/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Aug 26, 2020
  45. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2020
  46. 0/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Sep 21, 2020
  47. 1/3 msvc: copy the correct `.pdb` files in the Makefile target `install`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Sep 21, 2020
  48. 3/3 ci: stop linking built-ins to the dashed versionsJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Sep 21, 2020
  49. Junio C HamanoSep 21, 2020
  50. 2/3 Optionally skip linking/copying the built-insJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Sep 21, 2020

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