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Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 (GSoC13)

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Matthieu Moy <matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
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Feb 20, 2013, 12:26 UTC
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Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:
> - yes, we could improve mentoring by providing better projects and
> insisting even more on submitting earlier

A few words about my experience, not with GSoC, but with school projects (I've been proposing a few students in Ensimag to contribute to Git each year since 2010).

Last year, we've been using Scrum, and the "definition of done" was a very helpful tool. In Scrum, nothing is ever "half done", it is either "done" or "not done". Out of a 3 weeks project, the definition of done was initially "ready to be sent to the list", then "sent to the list, no major criticism in reviews" the second week, and "sent to the list, no more objections in reviews" the last week. At the beginning of each week ("sprint" in Scrum), students were commiting to a list of tasks, and at the end of each week, we evaluated how many were done. This encouraged students to avoid overcommiting and send patches early. Some of them validated nothing at all the first week: they hadn't realized the distance between their notion of clean working code and the one on this list, but at least they realized it early enough.

Of course, even with that, I had to continue the work to push it to master for some patch series, and discard some series that were basically not there.

Having several small projects instead of one big was very important. I'm not sure how the GSoC would feel about a list of small tasks instead of one ambitious project however.

My main disappointment is that I never managed to keep students in the community past the end of the project.

-- 
Matthieu Moy
http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/
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  3. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 18, 2013
  4. Jeff KingFeb 18, 2013
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  6. Jonathan NiederFeb 18, 2013
  7. Thomas RastFeb 18, 2013
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  9. Jeff KingFeb 18, 2013
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  11. Thomas RastFeb 18, 2013
  12. Jens LehmannFeb 18, 2013
  13. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2013
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  15. Jonathan NiederFeb 19, 2013
  16. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 19, 2013
  17. Thomas RastFeb 19, 2013
  18. Junio C HamanoFeb 19, 2013
  19. Thomas RastFeb 19, 2013
  20. Junio C HamanoFeb 19, 2013
  21. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 19, 2013
  22. Junio C HamanoFeb 19, 2013
  23. Jonathan NiederFeb 18, 2013
  24. Jens LehmannFeb 18, 2013
  25. Christian CouderFeb 20, 2013
  26. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 18, 2013
  27. Jeff KingFeb 18, 2013
  28. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2013
  29. Potential GSoC13 projects (Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 (GSoC13))Jonathan Nieder, Feb 18, 2013
  30. Duy NguyenFeb 19, 2013
  31. Jeff KingFeb 18, 2013
  32. Jonathan NiederFeb 18, 2013
  33. Shawn PearceFeb 20, 2013
  34. Christian CouderFeb 20, 2013
  35. Matthieu MoyFeb 20, 2013
  36. Thomas RastFeb 21, 2013
  37. Michael SchubertFeb 20, 2013
  38. Carlos Martín NietoFeb 21, 2013
  39. Florian AchleitnerFeb 25, 2013
  40. Junio C HamanoFeb 25, 2013
  41. Thomas RastFeb 18, 2013
  42. Ronan KeryellFeb 18, 2013
  43. Thomas RastFeb 18, 2013
  44. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 18, 2013
  45. Thomas RastFeb 18, 2013
  46. Duy NguyenFeb 19, 2013
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