git/list[1] front-page[2] threads[3] people[4] search[5] about
 

Re: [PATCH 00/15] [RFC] Maintenance jobs and job runner

From
Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Apr 7, 2020, 14:43 UTC
Message-ID
<nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2004071634570.46@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>
In-Reply-To
<20200407142647.GB1963@danh.dev>
Hi Danh,
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, Danh Doan wrote:
> Adding this set of commands to Git gonna made Git over-complicated,
> IMHO.

Let me counter that by The Tale of the Green Button: while it is not completely historically accurate, it is a good illustration of focusing on What Matters Most:

Once upon a time, Xerox built really nice copy machines that were very good and did a lot of useful things such as making one or more copies of one or more pages at a certain set of paper sizes with a certain set of paper criteria (heavy paper, shiny paper, double-sided copies) etc.

And the tale goes: nobody used it. Then a usability expert came in, interviewed the users and figured out that it was too complicated to use. The result was the big green button with which you can make one copy using the standard paper size and the default paper.

This set of commands that you are complaining about is intended to be that Big Green Button.

Also, maybe we should not talk too loudly about "making" Git over-complicated. If you care to have a look at https://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/ and find yourself being very much reminded of the current Git User Interface's complexity, you might agree that we should probably try to make _using_ Git less complicated.

Even if it means adding new commands. Such as `git restore` and `git switch`. And, yes, like `git job-runner` (or whatever we end up calling it, I do agree with Junio that `git maintenance` is a nice name for its intended purpose).

Don't just believe me. I invite you to interview the software engineers developing the Windows Operating System,. Or for that matter, _any_ software engineers working on projects substantially larger than git.git.

Ciao, Dscho

Previous: Danh DoanNext: brian m. carlson
Message 42 of 55 in “[RFC] Maintenance jobs and job runner”
  1. 00/15 [RFC] Maintenance jobs and job runnerDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  2. 01/15 run-job: create barebones builtinDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  3. Phillip WoodApr 5, 2020
  4. Junio C HamanoApr 5, 2020
  5. Derrick StoleeApr 6, 2020
  6. Danh DoanApr 7, 2020
  7. Derrick StoleeApr 7, 2020
  8. Danh DoanApr 7, 2020
  9. Johannes SchindelinApr 7, 2020
  10. 02/15 run-job: implement commit-graph jobDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  11. Josh SteadmonMay 20, 2020
  12. 05/15 run-job: implement pack-files jobDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  13. Josh SteadmonMay 27, 2020
  14. 03/15 run-job: implement fetch jobDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  15. Phillip WoodApr 5, 2020
  16. Derrick StoleeApr 6, 2020
  17. Junio C HamanoApr 5, 2020
  18. Derrick StoleeApr 6, 2020
  19. Josh SteadmonMay 20, 2020
  20. 06/15 run-job: auto-size or use custom pack-files batchDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  21. 04/15 run-job: implement loose-objects jobDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  22. Junio C HamanoApr 5, 2020
  23. 09/15 job-runner: load repos from config by defaultDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  24. Phillip WoodApr 5, 2020
  25. Derrick StoleeApr 6, 2020
  26. Phillip WoodApr 5, 2020
  27. Derrick StoleeApr 6, 2020
  28. 08/15 job-runner: create builtin for job loopDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  29. 11/15 job-runner: use config for loop intervalDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  30. 10/15 job-runner: use config to limit job frequencyDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  31. Phillip WoodApr 5, 2020
  32. 13/15 job-runner: skip a job if job.<job-name>.enabled is falseDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  33. 14/15 job-runner: add --daemonize optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  34. 12/15 job-runner: add --interval=<span> optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  35. 07/15 config: add job.pack-files.batchSize optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  36. 15/15 runjob: customize the loose-objects batch sizeDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 3, 2020
  37. Junio C HamanoApr 3, 2020
  38. Derrick StoleeApr 4, 2020
  39. Danh DoanApr 7, 2020
  40. Derrick StoleeApr 7, 2020
  41. Danh DoanApr 7, 2020
  42. Johannes SchindelinApr 7, 2020
  43. brian m. carlsonApr 7, 2020
  44. Junio C HamanoApr 7, 2020
  45. Johannes SchindelinApr 7, 2020
  46. brian m. carlsonApr 8, 2020
  47. Josh SteadmonMay 27, 2020
  48. Junio C HamanoMay 28, 2020
  49. Johannes SchindelinMay 27, 2020
  50. Junio C HamanoMay 28, 2020
  51. Jonathan NiederMay 28, 2020
  52. Junio C HamanoMay 28, 2020
  53. Jonathan NiederMay 28, 2020
  54. Derrick StoleeMay 28, 2020
  55. Johannes SchindelinMay 28, 2020

Read the whole thread, see it on lore, or plain text.

$ cat FOOTERMessages come from the public archive at lore.kernel.org/git, fetched every hour. The front page is chosen and written each morning by an AI editor and can be wrong; the threads themselves are the record. About and API. For agents: an MCP server at https://gitlist.dev/mcp, and any thread, story or person page as Markdown by adding .md to its URL (or sending Accept: text/markdown). Details in /llms.txt.