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Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] merge: Add merge.renames config setting

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Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Apr 27, 2018, 07:23 UTC
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Hi,
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Elijah Newren wrote:
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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> > Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> Color me puzzled. :)  The consensus was that the default value for
> >> merge.renames come from diff.renames.  diff.renames supports copy
> >> detection which means that merge.renames will inherit that value.  My
> >> assumption was that is what was intended so when I reimplemented it, I
> >> fully implemented it that way.
> >>
> >> Are you now requesting to only use diff.renames as the default if the
> >> value is true or false but not if it is copy?  What should happen if
> >> diff.renames is actually set to copy?  Should merge silently change
> >> that to true, display a warning, error out, or something else?  Do you
> >> have some other behavior for how to handle copy being inherited from
> >> diff.renames you'd like to see?
> >>
> >> Can you write the documentation that clearly explains the exact
> >> behavior you want?  That would kill two birds with one stone... :)
> >
> > I think demoting from copy to rename-only is a good idea, at least
> > for now, because I do not believe we have figured out what we want
> > to happen when we detect copied files are involved in a merge.
> >
> > But I am not sure if we even want to fail merge.renames=copy as an
> > invalid configuration.  So my gut feeling of the best solution to
> > the above is to do something like:
> >
> >  - whether the configuration comes from diff.renames or
> >    merge.renames, turn *.renames=copy to true inside the merge
> >    recursive machinery.
> >
> >  - document the fact in "git merge-recursive" documentation (or "git
> >    merge" documentation) to say "_currently_ asking for rename
> >    detection to find copies and renames will do the same
> >    thing---copies are ignored", impliying "this might change in the
> >    future", in the BUGS section.
> 
> Yes, I agree.

Guys, you argued long and hard that one config setting (diff.renames) should magically imply another one (merge.renames), on the basis that they essentially do the same.

And now you are suggesting that they *cannot* be essentially the same? Are you agreeing on such a violation of the Law of Least Surprise?

Please, make up your mind. Inheriting merge.renames from diff.renames is "magic" enough to be puzzling. Introducing that auto-demoting is just simply creating a bad user experience. Please don't.

It is fine, of course, to admit at this stage that the whole magic idea of letting merge.renames inherit from diff.renames was only half thought through (we're in reviewing stage right now for the purpose of weighing alternative approaches and trying to come up with the best solution after all) and that we should go with Ben's original approach, which has the rather huge and dramatic advantage of being very, very clear and easy to understand to the user. We could even document that (and why) the 'copy' value in merge.renames is not allowed for the time being.

Ciao, Dscho

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Message 46 of 65 in “add additional config settings for merge”
  1. 0/2 add additional config settings for mergeBen Peart, Apr 20, 2018
  2. 1/2 merge: Add merge.renames config settingBen Peart, Apr 20, 2018
  3. Elijah NewrenApr 20, 2018
  4. Elijah NewrenApr 20, 2018
  5. Ben PeartApr 23, 2018
  6. Ben PeartApr 20, 2018
  7. Elijah NewrenApr 20, 2018
  8. Junio C HamanoApr 21, 2018
  9. Ben PeartApr 23, 2018
  10. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2018
  11. Johannes SchindelinApr 24, 2018
  12. Elijah NewrenApr 24, 2018
  13. Johannes SchindelinApr 25, 2018
  14. Eckhard MaaßApr 22, 2018
  15. Ben PeartApr 23, 2018
  16. Eckhard MaaßApr 23, 2018
  17. Ben PeartApr 24, 2018
  18. Ben PeartApr 23, 2018
  19. 2/2 merge: Add merge.aggressive config settingBen Peart, Apr 20, 2018
  20. Elijah NewrenApr 20, 2018
  21. Ben PeartApr 24, 2018
  22. Elijah NewrenApr 24, 2018
  23. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2018
  24. Ben PeartApr 25, 2018
  25. Elijah NewrenApr 20, 2018
  26. Ben PeartApr 20, 2018
  27. 0/2 add additional config settings for mergeBen Peart, Apr 24, 2018
  28. 1/2 merge: Add merge.renames config settingBen Peart, Apr 24, 2018
  29. Elijah NewrenApr 24, 2018
  30. Elijah NewrenApr 24, 2018
  31. Ben PeartApr 24, 2018
  32. Elijah NewrenApr 25, 2018
  33. 2/2 merge: Add merge.aggressive config settingBen Peart, Apr 24, 2018
  34. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2018
  35. Ben PeartApr 25, 2018
  36. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2018
  37. 0/3 add merge.renames config settingBen Peart, Apr 26, 2018
  38. 1/3 merge: update documentation for {merge,diff}.renameLimitBen Peart, Apr 26, 2018
  39. Elijah NewrenApr 26, 2018
  40. Jonathan TanApr 26, 2018
  41. 2/3 merge: Add merge.renames config settingBen Peart, Apr 26, 2018
  42. Elijah NewrenApr 26, 2018
  43. Ben PeartApr 27, 2018
  44. Junio C HamanoApr 27, 2018
  45. Elijah NewrenApr 27, 2018
  46. Johannes SchindelinApr 27, 2018
  47. Elijah NewrenApr 27, 2018
  48. Eckhard MaaßApr 27, 2018
  49. Elijah NewrenApr 27, 2018
  50. Eckhard MaaßApr 30, 2018
  51. Elijah NewrenApr 30, 2018
  52. Elijah NewrenApr 27, 2018
  53. Elijah Newren, Apr 27, 2018
  54. Ben PeartApr 30, 2018
  55. Elijah NewrenApr 30, 2018
  56. Ben PeartMay 2, 2018
  57. 3/3 merge: pass aggressive when rename detection is turned offBen Peart, Apr 26, 2018
  58. Elijah NewrenApr 26, 2018
  59. Elijah NewrenApr 26, 2018
  60. 0/3 add additional config settings for mergeBen Peart, May 2, 2018
  61. 1/3 merge: update documentation for {merge,diff}.renameLimitBen Peart, May 2, 2018
  62. 2/3 merge: Add merge.renames config settingBen Peart, May 2, 2018
  63. Junio C HamanoMay 4, 2018
  64. 3/3 merge: pass aggressive when rename detection is turned offBen Peart, May 2, 2018
  65. Elijah NewrenMay 2, 2018

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