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Re: [PATCH 0/7] [RFC] advice: refuse to output if stderr not TTY

From
Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Date
Aug 22, 2024, 13:15 UTC
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<e90949ed-8065-4498-9ddb-3d5c6afa7b35@gmail.com>
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On 8/21/24 7:02 AM, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote:
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> Advice is supposed to be for humans, not machines. Why do we output it when
> stderr is not a terminal? Let's stop doing that.
> 
> I'm labeling this as an RFC because I believe there is some risk with this
> change. 

Thanks, all, for the feedback about the risk of making such a change. I agree that we should not pursue this direction.

The main issues are:
  1. Some tools create a wrapper around Git and may want to supply the
     advice to the user by parsing stderr.
  2. The advice system has been on for a long time and we cannot know
     where other dependencies could be for it.
I'll abandon this RFC, but plan on the following action items:
  * Document GIT_ADVICE in Documentation/git.exe.
  * Modify Documentation/config/advice.txt to mention GIT_ADVICE and
    recommend that automated tools calling Git commands set it to zero.
  * If we have a place to recommend best practices for automation
    executing Git commands, then I would add GIT_ADVICE=0 as a
    recommendation there. I couldn't find one myself. Do we have one?

Thanks! -Stolee

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Message 14 of 15 in “[RFC] advice: refuse to output if stderr not TTY”
  1. 0/7 [RFC] advice: refuse to output if stderr not TTYDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  2. 1/7 t1000-2000: add GIT_ADVICE=1 for advice testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  3. 2/7 t3000-4000: add GIT_ADVICE=1 to advice testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  4. 3/7 t5000: add GIT_ADVICE=1 to advice testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  5. 4/7 t6000: add GIT_ADVICE=1 to advice testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  6. 5/7 t7000: add GIT_ADVICE=1 to advice testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  7. 6/7 t7508/12: set GIT_ADVICE=1 across all testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  8. 7/7 advice: refuse to output if stderr not TTYDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Aug 21, 2024
  9. Jeff KingAug 21, 2024
  10. Junio C HamanoAug 21, 2024
  11. Junio C HamanoAug 21, 2024
  12. Patrick SteinhardtAug 22, 2024
  13. Gabor GombasAug 22, 2024
  14. Derrick StoleeAug 22, 2024
  15. Junio C HamanoAug 22, 2024

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