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Re: [RFC PATCH 00/18] Multi-pack index (MIDX)

From
Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Date
Jun 6, 2018, 11:24 UTC
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On 6/6/2018 4:13 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 08 2018, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2018 5:42 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 07 2018, Derrick Stolee jotted:
>>>
>>>>       git log --oneline --raw --parents
>>>>
>>>> Num Packs | Before MIDX | After MIDX |  Rel % | 1 pack %
>>>> ----------+-------------+------------+--------+----------
>>>>           1 |     35.64 s |    35.28 s |  -1.0% |   -1.0%
>>>>          24 |     90.81 s |    40.06 s | -55.9% |  +12.4%
>>>>         127 |    257.97 s |    42.25 s | -83.6% |  +18.6%
>>>>
>>>> The last column is the relative difference between the MIDX-enabled repo
>>>> and the single-pack repo. The goal of the MIDX feature is to present the
>>>> ODB as if it was fully repacked, so there is still room for improvement.
>>>>
>>>> Changing the command to
>>>>
>>>>       git log --oneline --raw --parents --abbrev=40
>>>>
>>>> has no observable difference (sub 1% change in all cases). This is likely
>>>> due to the repack I used putting commits and trees in a small number of
>>>> packfiles so the MRU cache workes very well. On more naturally-created
>>>> lists of packfiles, there can be up to 20% improvement on this command.
>>>>
>>>> We are using a version of this patch with an upcoming release of GVFS.
>>>> This feature is particularly important in that space since GVFS performs
>>>> a "prefetch" step that downloads a pack of commits and trees on a daily
>>>> basis. These packfiles are placed in an alternate that is shared by all
>>>> enlistments. Some users have 150+ packfiles and the MRU misses and
>>>> abbreviation computations are significant. Now, GVFS manages the MIDX file
>>>> after adding new prefetch packfiles using the following command:
>>>>
>>>>       git midx --write --update-head --delete-expired --pack-dir=<alt>
>>> (Not a critique of this, just a (stupid) question)
>>>
>>> What's the practical use-case for this feature? Since it doesn't help
>>> with --abbrev=40 the speedup is all in the part that ensures we don't
>>> show an ambiguous SHA-1.
>> The point of including the --abbrev=40 is to point out that object
>> lookups do not get slower with the MIDX feature. Using these "git log"
>> options is a good way to balance object lookups and abbreviations with
>> object parsing and diff machinery.[...]
> [snip]
>
>> [...]And while the public data shape I shared did not show a
>> difference, our private testing of the Windows repository did show a
>> valuable improvement when isolating to object lookups and ignoring
>> abbreviation calculations.
> Replying to this old thread since I see you're prepearing the MIDX for
> submission again and this seemed like the best venue.
You're really good at tracking new commits in my GitHub page ;)
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>
> Your WIP branch (github.com/git/derrickstolee/midx/upstream) still only
> references the speedups in abbreviation calculations, but here you
> allude to other improvements. It would be very nice to have some summary
> of that in docs / commit messages when you submit this.

The new version is essentially a complete rewrite of the feature, since we learned a lot about how to add a new data store from the commit-graph series. The design document [1] refers to some of the immediate benefits and future benefits. Some of these future benefits were discussed at the contributor's summit [2].

[1] https://github.com/derrickstolee/git/blob/midx/upstream/Documentation/technical/midx.txt

[2] 
https://public-inbox.org/git/alpine.DEB.2.20.1803091557510.23109@alexmv-linux/
     Git Merge 2018 Contributor's summit notes (includes discussion of MIDX)
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>
> I've been meaning to get around to submitting something like I mentioned
> in https://public-inbox.org/git/87efn0bkls.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/
> i.e. a way to expand the abbrev mode to not check disambiguations, which
> would look something like:
>
>      core.abbrev = 20
>      core.validateAbbrev = false
>
> Or:
>
>      core.abbrev = +2
>      core.validateAbbrev = false
>
> So, using the example from the above referenced E-Mail +2 would make
> linux.git emit hashes of 14 characters, without any abbreviation
> checking (just trusting in statistics to work in your favor).
>
> As noted by JS in this thread that wouldn't be acceptable for your
> use-case, but there's plenty of people (including me) who'd appreciate
> the speedup without being a 100% sure we're emitting unambiguous hashes,
> since that trade-off is better than time spent generating another index
> on-disk. So I see it as a complimentary & orthogonal feature.
>
> But with that implemented I wouldn't get any benefit from things that
> use the MIDX that aren't abbreviations, so what are those?

The MIDX is built for handling many packfiles. As opposed to the commit-graph feature, your repo needs to be _really_big_ to need the MIDX. Most just repack into one packfile on a regular basis.

One case for vanilla Git: we've heard from lots of customers disabling gc.auto in their build machines because they didn't want to wait for a repack/gc after a fetch and before a build. Then, they end up in a many-pack situation because they never scheduled time for that repack/gc.

For GVFS, we virtualize the repo, so objects can be downloaded from the server on-demand. Since round-trips to the server are expensive, we have the notion of a "prefetch pack". Our cache servers precompute packfiles containing all of the commits and trees introduced to the server that day. On a 'git fetch' command, GVFS intercepts via a hook and downloads the list of daily prefetch packs since the last prefetch. These are placed in an alternate (the "shared object cache"), so multiple enlistments can point to the same, fixed list of packs. The cache servers fold these packs together after 30 days, so users on a fresh clone start with 31 packs and users who go on vacation for a month get at most 31 packs in a single download.

The performance gains from the MIDX for abbrevations are the easiest to demonstrate. It's not hard to see why the single binary search to find the two closest OIDs is better than iterating through all of the packfiles and running a binary search on each.

The other thing that the MIDX does right now is be a single source for object lookups. This is harder to demonstrate the benefit in Git on its own, because using `git repack -adfF --max-pack-size=128m` repacks in a "good" way. This repack actually makes the MRU packfile list really effective.

One reason the MIDX is important for object lookups in the GVFS case is two-fold:

1. The time-based organization of the prefetch packs makes the trees 
necessary for a 'checkout' spread across many packfiles. Even with the 
working directory virtualization, every 'checkout' needs to recompute 
the .git/index, and that requires walking lots of trees.
2. When we are looking for a blob that is not in the local cache, we 
need to check that the blob is on-disk before requesting it from the 
server. In a many-pack scenario, those object misses are as expensive as 
the abbreviation case. This may affect partial clone, so I'll talk with 
Jeff H about that situation.

I expect to send my v1 today. I'm just trying to create a synthetic environment that demonstrates this benefit to object lookups using the Linux repository.

Thanks, -Stolee

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  1. 00/18 Multi-pack index (MIDX)Derrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  2. 01/18 docs: Multi-Pack Index (MIDX) Design NotesDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  3. Jonathan TanJan 8, 2018
  4. Derrick StoleeJan 8, 2018
  5. Jonathan TanJan 8, 2018
  6. 02/18 midx: specify midx file formatDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  7. 06/18 midx: add t5318-midx.sh test scriptDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  8. 09/18 midx: find details of nth object in midxDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  9. 11/18 midx: teach git-midx to clear midx filesDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  10. 12/18 midx: teach git-midx to delete expired filesDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  11. 13/18 t5318-midx.h: confirm git actions are stableDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  12. 15/18 midx: use midx for approximate object countDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  13. 18/18 packfile: use midx for object loadsDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  14. 17/18 sha1_name: use midx for abbreviationsDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  15. 08/18 midx: teach git-midx to read midx file detailsDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  16. 14/18 midx: load midx files when loading packsDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  17. 10/18 midx: use existing midx when writingDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  18. 16/18 midx: nth_midxed_object_oid() and bsearch_midx()Derrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  19. 03/18 midx: create core.midx config settingDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  20. 07/18 midx: teach midx --write to update midx-headDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  21. 04/18 midx: write multi-pack indexes for an object listDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  22. 05/18 midx: create midx builtin with --write modeDerrick Stolee, Jan 7, 2018
  23. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 7, 2018
  24. Derrick StoleeJan 8, 2018
  25. Jeff KingJan 8, 2018
  26. Jeff KingJan 8, 2018
  27. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 8, 2018
  28. Johannes SchindelinJan 8, 2018
  29. Jeff KingJan 9, 2018
  30. Johannes SchindelinJan 9, 2018
  31. Stefan BellerJan 9, 2018
  32. Junio C HamanoJan 9, 2018
  33. Stefan BellerJan 9, 2018
  34. Junio C HamanoJan 9, 2018
  35. Johannes SchindelinJan 10, 2018
  36. Jeff KingJan 10, 2018
  37. Derrick StoleeJan 8, 2018
  38. Jeff KingJan 9, 2018
  39. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 8, 2018
  40. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 6, 2018
  41. 0/2 unconditional O(1) SHA-1 abbreviationÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jun 6, 2018
  42. 1/2 config.c: use braces on multiple conditional armsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jun 6, 2018
  43. 2/2 sha1-name: add core.validateAbbrev & relative core.abbrevÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jun 6, 2018
  44. Christian CouderJun 6, 2018
  45. Derrick StoleeJun 6, 2018
  46. Martin FickJan 10, 2018
  47. Derrick StoleeJan 10, 2018
  48. Martin FickJan 10, 2018

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