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Re: [PATCH 5/7] commit-graph: document file format v2

From
Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Date
Feb 28, 2022, 13:44 UTC
Message-ID
<d19f5ee8-af92-805f-7ea2-8285862c1123@github.com>
In-Reply-To
<220225.86a6ee7eid.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>
On 2/25/2022 5:31 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 24 2022, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote:
> 
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>>    Generation Data (ID: {'G', 'D', 'A', 'T' }) (N * 4 bytes) [Optional]
>>      * This list of 4-byte values store corrected commit date offsets for the
>> @@ -103,6 +112,9 @@ CHUNK DATA:
>>      * Generation Data chunk is present only when commit-graph file is written
>>        by compatible versions of Git and in case of split commit-graph chains,
>>        the topmost layer also has Generation Data chunk.
>> +    * This chunk does not exist if the commit-graph file format version is 2,
>> +      because the corrected commit date offset data is stored in the Commit
>> +      Data chunk.
>>  
>>    Generation Data Overflow (ID: {'G', 'D', 'O', 'V' }) [Optional]
>>      * This list of 8-byte values stores the corrected commit date offsets
> 
> We talked a while ago now about how we do commit-graph format changes
> and this is partially echoing those earlier questions[1] from 2019.
> 
> I fully understand why we're writing this amended CDAT chunk in a
> different layout. By not having the GDAT side-chunk to look up in the
> data is more local, that part of the file is more compact etc.
> 
> What I don't understand is why getting those performance improvements
> requires the breaking version change & the writing of the incompatible
> version number.
> 
> I.e. couldn't the differently formatted CDAT chunk be written instead to a new
> chunk name (say "2DAT") instead? Per [1] we'd pay a small fixed cost for
> a possibly empty chunk (I didn't re-do those numbers), but surely the
> performance improvements will be about the same for that miniscule
> overhead.

CDAT is a required chunk. It is part of the v1 spec that CDAT exists and is correct. All other Git clients will error out when reading a "v1" graph without such a chunk, and in a way that is less helpful to users. Instead of clearly indicating "file version is too new" it will say "commit-graph is missing the Commit Data chunk" which is not helpful.

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> It will give you something you can't have here, which is optional
> compatibility with older clients by writing both versions. That'll be a
> ~2x as large file on disk, but with the page cache & each client version
> skipping to the data it needs caching characteristics & data locality
> should work out to about the same thing.

Writing both is the only way that this could work without incrementing the graph version number, but I'd rather just update the number and avoid wasting the effort to write that extra data.

It seems you are hyper-focused on "we don't _need_ to update the version number" and you are willing to recommend wasteful approaches in order to support that stance.

So: you're right. We don't _need_ to update the version number. But this
is the best choice among the options available.
> Or maybe they won't. I just found it surprising when reviewing this to
> not find an answer to why that approach wasn't
> considered.

The point is to create a new format that can be chosen when deployed in an environment where older Git versions will not exist (such as a Git server). The new version is not chosen by default and instead is opt-in through the commitGraph.generationVersion config option.

Perhaps in a year or two we would consider making this the new default, but there is no rush to do so.

Thanks, -Stolee

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Message 37 of 70 in “Commit-graph: Generation Number v2 Fixes, v3 implementation”
  1. 0/7 Commit-graph: Generation Number v2 Fixes, v3 implementationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  2. 2/7 commit-graph: fix ordering bug in generation numbersDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  3. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2022
  4. Derrick StoleeFeb 25, 2022
  5. Junio C HamanoFeb 25, 2022
  6. 1/7 test-read-graph: include extra post-parse infoDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  7. 3/7 commit-graph: start parsing generation v2 (again)Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  8. Patrick SteinhardtFeb 28, 2022
  9. Derrick StoleeFeb 28, 2022
  10. Patrick SteinhardtFeb 28, 2022
  11. Derrick StoleeFeb 28, 2022
  12. Patrick SteinhardtMar 1, 2022
  13. Patrick SteinhardtMar 1, 2022
  14. Derrick StoleeMar 1, 2022
  15. Patrick SteinhardtMar 1, 2022
  16. Derrick StoleeMar 1, 2022
  17. Patrick SteinhardtMar 2, 2022
  18. Derrick StoleeMar 2, 2022
  19. Junio C HamanoMar 2, 2022
  20. Derrick StoleeMar 2, 2022
  21. Junio C HamanoMar 2, 2022
  22. Patrick SteinhardtMar 3, 2022
  23. Derrick StoleeMar 3, 2022
  24. Derrick StoleeMar 4, 2022
  25. Patrick SteinhardtMar 7, 2022
  26. Derrick StoleeMar 7, 2022
  27. Junio C HamanoMar 7, 2022
  28. Patrick SteinhardtMar 10, 2022
  29. Derrick StoleeMar 10, 2022
  30. 4/7 commit-graph: fix generation number v2 overflow valuesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  31. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2022
  32. Derrick StoleeFeb 25, 2022
  33. Junio C HamanoFeb 25, 2022
  34. 5/7 commit-graph: document file format v2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  35. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2022
  36. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 25, 2022
  37. Derrick StoleeFeb 28, 2022
  38. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 28, 2022
  39. Derrick StoleeFeb 28, 2022
  40. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 28, 2022
  41. Derrick StoleeMar 1, 2022
  42. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 1, 2022
  43. Derrick StoleeMar 1, 2022
  44. 6/7 commit-graph: parse file format v2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  45. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2022
  46. Derrick StoleeFeb 25, 2022
  47. 7/7 commit-graph: write file format v2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 24, 2022
  48. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2022
  49. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2022
  50. Derrick StoleeFeb 25, 2022
  51. 0/4 Commit-graph: Generation Number v2 FixesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 28, 2022
  52. 1/4 test-read-graph: include extra post-parse infoDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 28, 2022
  53. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 28, 2022
  54. 2/4 commit-graph: fix ordering bug in generation numbersDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 28, 2022
  55. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 28, 2022
  56. 3/4 commit-graph: start parsing generation v2 (again)Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 28, 2022
  57. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 28, 2022
  58. Derrick StoleeFeb 28, 2022
  59. 4/4 commit-graph: fix generation number v2 overflow valuesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Feb 28, 2022
  60. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 28, 2022
  61. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 1, 2022
  62. 0/5 Commit-graph: Generation Number v2 FixesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Mar 1, 2022
  63. 3/5 commit-graph: fix ordering bug in generation numbersDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Mar 1, 2022
  64. Junio C HamanoMar 1, 2022
  65. Junio C HamanoMar 1, 2022
  66. Derrick StoleeMar 2, 2022
  67. 5/5 commit-graph: fix generation number v2 overflow valuesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Mar 1, 2022
  68. 4/5 commit-graph: start parsing generation v2 (again)Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Mar 1, 2022
  69. 1/5 test-read-graph: include extra post-parse infoDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Mar 1, 2022
  70. 2/5 t5318: extract helpers to lib-commit-graph.shDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Mar 1, 2022

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