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Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section

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PWPhillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Date
Aug 15, 2025, 10:25 UTC
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On 14/08/2025 22:18, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> "Julia Evans" <julia@jvns.ca> writes:
> 
>>> well given they're also both pretty niche. I'd also be very happy to go
>>> with Junio's suggestion to replace steps 1 & 2 with a general
>>> description that does not mention 'git log' at all.
>>
>> I like the idea of leaving out `--fork-point` and `--root`.
>>
>> Now that I know the use case for `--reapply-cherry-picks`: what I like about
>> leaving in the `git log` description is that I think it makes it easier for
>> folks to build a mental model of why a `git rebase` might be slow: there's a
>> "fast step" (the `git log` step) and a "slow step" (the `git patch-id` step).
 >
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> But that is not what goes on, is it?  What you wrote as if they were
> two separate steps (1 to enumerate, 2 to filter) is not what happens
> in practice.  Whether it is done via the "format-patch --stdout | am"
> pipeline in run_am(), or via the "rev-list --reverse | xargs -n1
> cherry-pick" pipeline in run_sequencer_rebase(), the upstream of
> these conceptual pipelines that enumerates what is to be replayed is
> run just once, i.e. there is only one step that "enumerates what is
> to be replayed", without a separate filtering step.
> 
> In other words, there is no "a fast step followed by a slow step".

Although the cherry-pick detection happens inside "git log" that command has a fast step (find the commits on both sides of the merge base) and a slow step (detect cherry-picks) so I think it depends where one draws the step boundaries. The cherry-pick detection is known to be slow when there are a lot of new upstream commits which was the motivation for adding --reapply-cherry-picks in 0fcb4f6b62 (rebase --merge: optionally skip upstreamed commits, 2020-04-11)

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> Perhaps squashing the first two steps into one and phrasing them as
> a single step is sufficient to give a conceptual overview (what you
> have in v7 as "a simplified description of what the command does").
> 
>   1. Make a list of all commits on your current branch since it
>      branched off from `<upstream>` that do not have equivalent
>      change in `<upstream>`.
> 
> If you want to keep 1 & 2 separate, then rephrase the introductory
> sentence to clarify that we are giving a white lie for the sake of
> easier understanding, e.g.
> 
>      Here is what conceptually happens in "git rebase":
Either of those sounds reasonable to me
Thanks
Phillip
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  1. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  2. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  3. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2025
  4. Julia EvansAug 8, 2025
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2025
  6. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  7. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2025
  8. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  9. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  10. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  11. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  12. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  13. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2025
  14. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  15. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  16. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2025
  17. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  18. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  19. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2025
  20. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  21. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  22. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  23. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  24. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  25. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 8, 2025
  26. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 9, 2025
  27. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 9, 2025
  28. Phillip WoodAug 10, 2025
  29. Patrick SteinhardtAug 11, 2025
  30. Karthik NayakAug 11, 2025
  31. Ben KnobleAug 11, 2025
  32. Karthik NayakAug 12, 2025
  33. Junio C HamanoAug 12, 2025
  34. Phillip WoodAug 11, 2025
  35. Karthik NayakAug 12, 2025
  36. D. Ben KnobleAug 12, 2025
  37. Junio C HamanoAug 12, 2025
  38. Karthik NayakAug 14, 2025
  39. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 9, 2025
  40. Patrick SteinhardtAug 11, 2025
  41. Phillip WoodAug 11, 2025
  42. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 9, 2025
  43. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 9, 2025
  44. D. Ben KnobleAug 9, 2025
  45. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 9, 2025
  46. Phillip WoodAug 10, 2025
  47. symmetric difference with --left-only vs. range notationD. Ben Knoble, Aug 13, 2025
  48. Junio C HamanoAug 13, 2025
  49. Patrick SteinhardtAug 11, 2025
  50. Ben KnobleAug 11, 2025
  51. Patrick SteinhardtAug 11, 2025
  52. Julia EvansAug 11, 2025
  53. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  54. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  55. Junio C HamanoAug 11, 2025
  56. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  57. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  58. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  59. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  60. Junio C HamanoAug 11, 2025
  61. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  62. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  63. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  64. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  65. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  66. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 11, 2025
  67. Junio C HamanoAug 11, 2025
  68. Julia EvansAug 11, 2025
  69. Junio C HamanoAug 11, 2025
  70. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 12, 2025
  71. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 12, 2025
  72. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 12, 2025
  73. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 12, 2025
  74. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 12, 2025
  75. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 12, 2025
  76. Junio C HamanoAug 14, 2025
  77. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2025
  78. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2025
  79. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2025
  80. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2025
  81. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2025
  82. Junio C HamanoAug 15, 2025
  83. Phillip WoodAug 18, 2025
  84. Junio C HamanoAug 18, 2025
  85. Julia EvansAug 19, 2025
  86. Junio C HamanoAug 19, 2025
  87. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2025
  88. Phillip WoodAug 18, 2025
  89. 0/5 doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION sectionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 23, 2025
  90. 1/5 doc: git-rebase: start with an exampleJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 23, 2025
  91. 2/5 doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussionJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 23, 2025
  92. 3/5 doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntaxJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 23, 2025
  93. 4/5 doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation downJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 23, 2025
  94. 5/5 doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internalsJulia Evans via GitGitGadget, Aug 23, 2025
  95. Phillip WoodAug 13, 2025
  96. Julia EvansAug 13, 2025
  97. Junio C HamanoAug 14, 2025
  98. Phillip WoodAug 15, 2025
  99. Junio C HamanoAug 15, 2025
  100. Phillip WoodAug 15, 2025
  101. Julia EvansAug 15, 2025
  102. Phillip WoodAug 15, 2025
  103. D. Ben KnobleAug 9, 2025

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