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Re: [RFC] Re: Convert 'git blame' to parse_options()

From
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date
Jun 24, 2008, 17:44 UTC
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<alpine.LFD.1.10.0806241036560.2926@woody.linux-foundation.org>
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Jeff King wrote:
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> 
> Perhaps I was confused about the definition of "single", because
> throughout this thread you seem to be making multiple complaints about
> parse_options, including its lack of a "stop on unknown" flag, a
> "continue on unknown flag", and the movement of arguments within the
> argv array.
You think that is multiple problems, but it's not.

It was a single issue - the issue of being able to do incremental parsing, and mixing *different* parsers together (not just two different calls to "parse_options()", but also having hand-parsing still in the picture for things where it was hard to convert).

And to solve that _single_ problem, I wanted parse_options() to be able to:

 - stop at unknown options (so that I could hand-parse them)
 - ignore unknown options (so that I could parse all the ones I knew 
   about, and then either hand-parse the rest, or just pass them on to 
   _another_ function that used some arbitrary model to parse the parts it 
   knew about)
See? Single issue.

And I even sent out a single patch for it. That single patch, btw, was even rather small.

Did you ever look at that patch? Did you ever look at the code I was trying to have use parse_options()? No.

> So I will say one last time, as clearly as I possibly can, what I was
> trying to bring to the discussion:
You constantly try to change the discussion to be about SOMETHIGN ELSE.
For example, you keep on bringing up this TOTAL RED HERRING:
>   - It is impossible for that mechanism to be correct in all cases, due
>     to the syntactic rules for command lines. IOW, you cannot parse an
>     element until you know the function of the element to the left.
NOBODY F*CKIGN CARES!
Because what builtin-blame.c *already* does is exactly that.

This is what I'm complaining about with your totally IDIOTIC mails. You're ignoring reality, and talking about how things "ought to work", and never ever apparently looked at how things *do* work.

The fact is, the one program I wanted to convert already does exactly what you claim is "impossible to be correct in all cases".

So either shut up, or send a patch to fix what you consider a bug. I'm waiting.

So screw it. I'm simply not interested in discussing this with you. You aren't apparently interested in looking at the problems we have today, because you're only interested in fixing some theoretical case.

		Linus
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Message 49 of 82 in “Convert 'git blame' to parse_options()”
  1. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  2. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2008
  3. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2008
  4. [RFC] Re: Convert 'git blame' to parse_options()Pierre Habouzit, Jun 23, 2008
  5. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2008
  6. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  7. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2008
  8. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  9. Jeff KingJun 23, 2008
  10. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  11. Jeff KingJun 23, 2008
  12. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  13. Jeff KingJun 23, 2008
  14. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  15. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  16. Jeff KingJun 23, 2008
  17. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  18. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  19. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  20. parse-opt: have parse_options_{start,end}.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 23, 2008
  21. parse-opt: Export a non NORETURN usage dumper.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 23, 2008
  22. parse-opt: create parse_options_step.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 23, 2008
  23. parse-opt: do not pring errors on unknown options, return -2 intead.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 23, 2008
  24. parse-opt: fake short strings for callers to believe in.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 23, 2008
  25. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2008
  26. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  27. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  28. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2008
  29. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  30. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  31. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  32. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  33. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2008
  34. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  35. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2008
  37. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  38. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  39. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2008
  40. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  41. Jeff KingJun 24, 2008
  42. Jeff KingJun 23, 2008
  43. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  44. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  45. Jeff KingJun 24, 2008
  46. Linus TorvaldsJun 24, 2008
  47. Johannes SchindelinJun 24, 2008
  48. Jeff KingJun 24, 2008
  49. Linus TorvaldsJun 24, 2008
  50. Jeff KingJun 24, 2008
  51. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2008
  52. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  53. Linus TorvaldsJun 24, 2008
  54. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  55. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  56. Johannes SixtJun 25, 2008
  57. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2008
  58. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  59. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2008
  60. Jeff KingJun 23, 2008
  61. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2008
  62. Pierre HabouzitJun 23, 2008
  63. Linus TorvaldsJun 23, 2008
  64. Making parse-opt incremental, reworked seriesPierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  65. 1/7 parse-opt: have parse_options_{start,end}.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  66. 2/7 parse-opt: Export a non NORETURN usage dumper.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  67. 3/7 parse-opt: create parse_options_step.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  68. 4/7 parse-opt: do not pring errors on unknown options, return -2 intead.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  69. 5/7 parse-opt: fake short strings for callers to believe in.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  70. 6/7 parse-opt: add PARSE_OPT_KEEP_ARGV0 parser option.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  71. 7/7 Migrate git-blame to parse-option partially.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  72. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  73. Linus TorvaldsJun 24, 2008
  74. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  75. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  76. Linus TorvaldsJun 24, 2008
  77. Pierre HabouzitJun 24, 2008
  78. Andreas EricssonJun 25, 2008
  79. parse-opt: fake short strings for callers to believe in.Pierre Habouzit, Jun 24, 2008
  80. Pierre HabouzitJun 26, 2008
  81. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2008
  82. Pierre HabouzitJun 26, 2008

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