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Re: Smart fetch via HTTP?

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Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
Date
May 17, 2007, 03:45 UTC
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On Wed, 16 May 2007, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
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> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Don't forget that those 10% probably do not do you the favour to be in 
> > large chunks. Chances are that _every_ _single_ wanted object is separate 
> > from the others.
> 
> That's completely possible.  Assuming the objects even are packed
> in the first place.  Its very unlikely that you would be able to
> fetch very large of a range from an existing packfile, you would be
> submitting most of your range requests for very very small sections.

Well, in the commit objects case you're likely to have a bunch of them all contigous.

For tree and blob objects it is less likely.

And of course there is the question of deltas for which you might or might not have the base object locally already.

Still... I wonder if this could be actually workable. A typical daily update on the Linux kernel repository might consist of a couple hundreds or a few tousands objects. This could still be faster to fetch parts of a pack than the whole pack if the size difference is above a certain treshold. It is certainly not worse than fetching loose objects.

Things would be pretty horrid if you think of fetching a commit object, parsing it to find out what tree object to fetch, then parse that tree object to find out what other objects to fetch, and so on.

But if you only take the approach of fetching the pack index files, finding out about the objects that the remote has that are not available locally, and then fetching all those objects from within pack files without even looking at them (except for deltas), then it should be possible to issue a couple requests in parallel and possibly have decent performances. And if it turns out that more than, say, 70% of a particular pack is to be fetched (you can determine that up front), then it might be decided to fetch the whole pack.

There is no way to sensibly keep those objects packed on the receiving end of course, but storing them as loose objects and repacking them afterwards should be just fine.

Of course you'll get objects from branches in the remote repository you might not be interested in, but that's a price to pay for such a hack. On average the overhead shouldn't be that big anyway if branches within a repository are somewhat related.

I think this is something worth experimenting.
Nicolas
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  1. Jan HudecMay 15, 2007
  2. A Large Angry SCMMay 15, 2007
  3. Shawn O. PearceMay 15, 2007
  4. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2007
  5. Martin LanghoffMay 16, 2007
  6. Johannes SchindelinMay 16, 2007
  7. Martin LanghoffMay 16, 2007
  8. Jakub NarebskiMay 16, 2007
  9. Johannes SchindelinMay 17, 2007
  10. Shawn O. PearceMay 17, 2007
  11. david@lang.hmMay 17, 2007
  12. Shawn O. PearceMay 17, 2007
  13. Shawn O. PearceMay 17, 2007
  14. Theodore TsoMay 17, 2007
  15. Nicolas PitreMay 17, 2007
  16. Johannes SchindelinMay 17, 2007
  17. Nicolas PitreMay 17, 2007
  18. Martin LanghoffMay 17, 2007
  19. Nicolas PitreMay 17, 2007
  20. Jan HudecMay 17, 2007
  21. Nicolas PitreMay 17, 2007
  22. david@lang.hmMay 17, 2007
  23. Johannes SchindelinMay 18, 2007
  24. Jan HudecMay 18, 2007
  25. Matthieu MoyMay 17, 2007
  26. Martin LanghoffMay 17, 2007
  27. Johannes SchindelinMay 17, 2007
  28. Matthieu MoyMay 17, 2007
  29. Martin LanghoffMay 17, 2007
  30. Nicolas PitreMay 17, 2007
  31. Jakub NarebskiMay 17, 2007
  32. Nicolas PitreMay 17, 2007
  33. Petr BaudisMay 17, 2007
  34. Matthieu MoyMay 17, 2007
  35. Linus TorvaldsMay 18, 2007
  36. alanMay 18, 2007
  37. Joel BeckerMay 18, 2007
  38. Matthieu MoyMay 18, 2007
  39. Linus TorvaldsMay 18, 2007
  40. Joel BeckerMay 18, 2007
  41. Jan HudecMay 20, 2007
  42. david@lang.hmMay 19, 2007
  43. Shawn O. PearceMay 19, 2007
  44. david@lang.hmMay 19, 2007
  45. Jan HudecMay 17, 2007
  46. Nicolas PitreMay 17, 2007
  47. Jan HudecMay 18, 2007

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