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Re: git-pull from git.git - no remote ref for pu or next?

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Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Dec 12, 2006, 20:26 UTC
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<Pine.LNX.4.63.0612122121190.2807@wbgn013.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de>
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<Pine.LNX.4.64.0612121144220.3535@woody.osdl.org>
Hi,
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote:
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> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > But it would become a non-problem when the HTTP transport would learn 
> > > > to read and interpret the .idx files, basically constructing thin 
> > > > packs from parts of the .pack files ("Content-Range:" comes to 
> > > > mind)...
> > > 
> > > Woooh.
> > 
> > Does that mean "Yes, I'll do it"? ;-)
> 
> Umm. I hope it means "Woooh, that's crazy talk".
> 
> You do realize that then you need to teach the http-walker about walking 
> the delta chain all the way up? For big pulls, you're going to be a lot 
> _slower_ than just downloading the whole dang thing, because the delta 
> objects are often just ~40 bytes, and you've now added a ping-pong latency 
> for each such small transfer.
Two points:
- For loose objects, the HTTP walker does exactly that. This is the normal 
case for "just a few objects since the last fetch". It will _never_ be the 
case for the initial clone!
- Usually, the object fetching can be parallelized, because you want 
multiple objects which are in disjunct delta chains. And for these, you 
can say something like "Content-Range: 15-31,64-79,108-135" IIRC.

You could even fetch sensible chunks, i.e. cut only at multiples of 512 to make the transport more efficient, and only fetch the parts which are _still_ missing.

So, a crazy idea, yes. But a feasible one. Just not crazy enough to be tempting for me (I use the git protocol whenever possible, too).

Ciao,
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Message 18 of 22 in “git-pull from git.git - no remote ref for pu or next?”
  1. Randal L. SchwartzDec 12, 2006
  2. Randal L. SchwartzDec 12, 2006
  3. Johannes SchindelinDec 12, 2006
  4. Randal L. SchwartzDec 12, 2006
  5. Linus TorvaldsDec 12, 2006
  6. Johannes SchindelinDec 12, 2006
  7. Linus TorvaldsDec 12, 2006
  8. Nicolas PitreDec 12, 2006
  9. Linus TorvaldsDec 12, 2006
  10. Jakub NarebskiDec 12, 2006
  11. Nicolas PitreDec 12, 2006
  12. Johannes SchindelinDec 12, 2006
  13. Jakub NarebskiDec 12, 2006
  14. Nicolas PitreDec 12, 2006
  15. Johannes SchindelinDec 12, 2006
  16. Linus TorvaldsDec 12, 2006
  17. Jakub NarebskiDec 12, 2006
  18. Johannes SchindelinDec 12, 2006
  19. Nicolas PitreDec 12, 2006
  20. Nicolas PitreDec 12, 2006
  21. Linus TorvaldsDec 12, 2006
  22. Eric WongDec 12, 2006

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