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Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Introduce new merge-tree-ort command

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Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Date
Jan 7, 2022, 17:58 UTC
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On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 5:54 PM Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:33 AM Christian Couder
> <christian.couder@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > The current `git merge-tree` command though seems to have a number of
> > issues, especially:
> >
> >   - it's too much related to the old merge recursive strategy which is
> >     not the default anymore since v2.34.0 and is likely to be
> >     deprecated over time,
> >
> >   - it seems to output things in its own special format, which is not
> >     easy to customize, and which needs special code and logic to parse
>
> I agree we don't want those...but why would new merge-tree options
> have to use the old merge strategy or the old output format?

Yeah, it's not necessary if there are 2 separate modes, a "real" mode (like what you implemented with --real in your recent patch series) and a "trivial" mode (which is the name you give to the old code).

Adding modes like this to a command is likely to make the command and its documentation more difficult to understand though. For example I think that we created `git switch` because the different modes of `git checkout` made the command hard to learn.

I gave other reasons in [1] why I prefer a separate command.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAP8UFD1LgfZ0MT9=cMvxCcox++_MBBhWG9Twf42cMiXL42AdpQ@mail.gmail.com/
> > To move forward on this, this small RFC patch series introduces a new
> > `git merge-tree-ort` command with the following design:
>
> Slightly dislike the command name.
I am ok with changing the command name.
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> `ort` was meant as a temporary,
> internal name.  I don't think it's very meaningful to users, so I was
> hoping to just make `recursive` mean `ort` after we had enough
> testing, and to delete merge-recursive.[ch] at that time.  Then `ort`
> merely becomes a historical footnote (...and perhaps part of the name
> of the file where the `recursive` algorithm is implemented).

I think something similar could still be done with `git merge-tree-ort` or whatever name we give to this command. For example we could first add --ort to `git merge-tree` and make it call `git merge-tree-ort`, then after some time make --ort the default, then after some more time remove `git merge-tree-ort`. And whenever we make those changes we could also rename the builtin/merge-tree*.{h,c} accordingly.

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> >   - it uses merge-ort's API as is to perform the merge
> >
> >   - it gets back a tree oid and a cleanliness status from merge-ort's
> >     API and prints them out first
>
> Good so far.
>
> >   - it uses diff's API as is to output changed paths and code
> >
> >   - the diff API, actually diff_tree_oid() is called 3 times: once for
> >     the diff versus branch1 ("ours"), once for the diff versus branch2
> >     ("theirs"), and once for the diff versus the base.
>
> Why?  That seems to be a performance penalty for anyone that doesn't
> want/need the diffs, and since we return a tree, a caller can go and
> get whatever diffs they like.

I say somewhere else that I am planning to add options to disable this or parts of this diff output.

I think it's still interesting for the command to be able to output diffs, especially diffs of conflicting parts. In [2] Ævar said:

=> I.e. I'm not the first or last to have (not for anything serious) => implement a dry-run bare-repo merge with something like: => => git merge-tree origin/master git-for-windows/main origin/seen >diff => # Better regex needed, but basically this => grep "^\+<<<<<<< \.our$" diff && conflict=t

Also `git merge-tree` currently outputs diffs, so I thought it would be sad if the new command couldn't do it.

[2] https://lore.kernel.org/git/211109.861r3qdpt8.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com/
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> > Therefore:
> >
> >   - its code is very simple and very easy to extend and customize, for
> >     example by passing diff or merge-ort options that the code would
> >     just pass on to the merge-ort and diff APIs respectively
> >
> >   - its output can easily be parsed using simple code
>
> These points are good.
>
> >     and existing diff parsers
> >
> > This of course means that merge-tree-ort's output is not backward
> > compatible with merge-tree's output, but it doesn't seem that there is
> > much value in keeping the same output anyway. On the contrary
> > merge-tree's output is likely to hold us back already.
> >
> > The first patch in the series adds the new command without any test
> > and documentation.
> >
> > The second patch in the series adds a few tests that let us see how
> > the command's output looks like in different very simple cases.
> >
> > Of course if this approach is considered valuable, I plan to add some
> > documentation, more tests and very likely a number of options before
> > submitting the next iteration.
>
> Was there something you didn't like about
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/pull.1114.git.git.1640927044.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/?

I was having a vacation at the time and even though I skimmed the mailing list, I missed it. Sorry.

Also I thought that you might not be interested in this anymore as you didn't reply to [1] and [2] where Ævar and I both said that we were interested in your opinion on a git merge-tree on steroids.

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> > I am not sure that it's worth showing the 3 diffs (versus branch1,
> > branch2 and base) by default. Maybe by default no diff at all should
> > be shown and the command should have --branch1 (or --ours), --branch2
> > (or --theirs) and --base options to ask for such output, but for an
> > RFC patch I thought it would be better to output the 3 diffs so that
> > people get a better idea of the approach this patch series is taking.
>
> I think not showing, neither by default
I am ok with not showing them by default.
> or at all would be better.
> All three of these are things users could easily generate for
> themselves with the tree we return.  I'm curious, though, what's the
> usecase for wanting these specific diffs?
I think I replied to this above.
> Two things you didn't return that users cannot get any other way: (1)
> conflict and warning messages, (2) list of conflicted paths.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how they could be returned with the merge-ort (or maybe diff) API, and I thought that the current `git merge-tree` doesn't report them, so I was aiming for something roughly just as powerful as the current `git merge-tree`.

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  1. 0/2 Introduce new merge-tree-ort commandChristian Couder, Jan 5, 2022
  2. 1/2 merge-ort: add new merge-tree-ort commandChristian Couder, Jan 5, 2022
  3. Elijah NewrenJan 5, 2022
  4. 2/2 merge-ort: add t/t4310-merge-tree-ort.shChristian Couder, Jan 5, 2022
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