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Re: [PATCH v3 2/6] notes: replace pseudorefs with real refs

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Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>
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Jul 29, 2015, 02:34 UTC
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> Johan Herland <johan@herland.net> writes:
>
>> Here is where we start to differ. I would say that starting a notes
>> merge is completely unrelated to your worktree. Consider this:
>> ...
>> This is not the case for notes merges. If I start a notes merge from
>> worktree A, there is no "occupation" of that worktree. Before the
>> notes merge is resolved, I can do whatever I want in worktree A
>> (including checking out a different branch, performing a rebase,
>> whatever...). Instead, the notes merge creates its own worktree (that
>> is "occupied" until the notes merge is completed), which is completely
>> unrelated to worktree A.
>
> That does not mean the notes merge that you started when you were
> sitting in worktree A has to be shared with worktree B, by say doing
> "vi .git/NOTES_MERGE_WORKTREE/$commit && git notes merge --commit".
>
> Also the above does not explain why it is sensible for you to forbid
> worktree B from doing an unrelated notes merge of a different ref
> under refs/notes/* while your worktree A is doing a notes merge.

I do not argue that it is sensible to forbid concurrent unrelated notes merges. I argue that using linked worktrees is a poor solution for concurrent unrelated notes merges.

A better solution does not concern itself with worktrees at all, and does not need to add nonsensical conditions like:

    die_if_checked_out("NOTES_MERGE_REF", default_notes_ref());

A better solution does not need to add complexity to the branch or linked worktree code to deal with notes merges. Instead, it simply organizes the notes merge worktrees in such a manner that the correct semantics naturally emerge.

Again, let's compare the two approaches (against the current situation):
Current situation:
 - A single $GIT_COMMON_DIR/NOTES_MERGE_*
 - Concurrent (unrelated or not) notes merges are simply not supported
Proposal A (please correct me where I have misunderstood what's proposed):
 - Each worktree has its own $GIT_DIR/NOTES_MERGE_*
 - Concurrent unrelated notes merges are supported, provided that you
create an additional linked worktree to "host" each concurrent notes
merge.
 - Logic must be added to ensure unrelated-ness, i.e. make sure that
the NOTES_MERGE_REF in worktree X is different from all other
worktrees' NOTES_MERGE_REF.
Proposal B:
 - The repo has a $GIT_COMMON_DIR/notes-merge/$ref/* hierarchy for
organizing concurrent notes merges
 - Concurrent unrelated notes merges are supported, independently of
whether you have zero, one, or several worktrees.
 - The notes merge code must be adjusted to work with the above
hierarchy, and must naturally fail if the user attempts to start a new
notes merge that would clobber an in-progress notes merge (only notes
merges to the same notes ref will clobber).

I obviously feel proposal B is superior to A, so I wonder what I have missed about A that makes it preferable.

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>> In principle, I agree that an ongoing notes-merge into
>> refs/notes/someotherthing should be able to coexist with an ongoing
>> notes-merge into refs/notes/commits. However, it does not make sense
>> to bind those notes-merges to a specific worktree.
>
> The thing is, the choice is between per worktree or per repository.
> Taking the latter would mean you can only be doing one notes merge
> at a time, even though you prepared multiple worktrees so that you
> can work on different things at a time.  It is true that there is
> nothing inherent that ties a note merge to a worktree (a worktree is
> tied to a branch that is checed out, and there is no tie between a
> branch and a notes tree), but "not inherantly tied to" does not
> automatically mean "has to be one per repository".  You'd ideally
> want to allow N workspaces for N refs/notes/* refs.
>
> But people work in worktrees, and that is their unit of working
> space.  From that point of view, unless you are proposing a
> completely different design where the primary worktree can be used
> only for manipulating notes (hence, you can have worktrees for
> resolving refs/notes/A and refs/notes/B, in addition to the other
> worktrees you use to advance branches), treating NOTES_MERGE_REF as
> a per-worktree entity just like HEAD and the index is, would be the
> most sensible comporise.

I believe it is a bad compromise. It complicates the code, and it provides a concurrent notes merges that is unnecessarily tied to (and dependent on) worktrees. For example, if I wanted to perform N concurrent notes merges in a project that happens to have a huge worktree, I would now have to create N copies of the huge worktree...

...Johan
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Johan Herland, <johan@herland.net>
www.herland.net
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Message 25 of 41 in “pseudorefs”
  1. 0/6 pseudorefsDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  2. 1/6 refs: Introduce pseudoref and per-worktree ref conceptsDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  3. 2/6 notes: replace pseudorefs with real refsDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  4. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2015
  5. David TurnerJul 28, 2015
  6. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2015
  7. notes: handle multiple worktreesDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  8. David TurnerJul 28, 2015
  9. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2015
  10. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2015
  11. Johan HerlandJul 28, 2015
  12. Duy NguyenAug 3, 2015
  13. Eric SunshineJul 28, 2015
  14. Johan HerlandJul 28, 2015
  15. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2015
  16. Johan HerlandJul 28, 2015
  17. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  18. Michael HaggertyJul 29, 2015
  19. Jacob KellerJul 29, 2015
  20. Johan HerlandJul 29, 2015
  21. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  22. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  23. Johan HerlandJul 29, 2015
  24. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  25. Johan HerlandJul 29, 2015
  26. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  27. Johan HerlandJul 29, 2015
  28. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  29. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  30. Johan HerlandJul 30, 2015
  31. Junio C HamanoJul 30, 2015
  32. Junio C HamanoJul 29, 2015
  33. Johan HerlandJul 29, 2015
  34. 3/6 refs: add ref_type functionDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  35. Eric SunshineJul 29, 2015
  36. 4/6 pseudorefs: create and use pseudoref update and delete functionsDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  37. Eric SunshineJul 29, 2015
  38. 5/6 rebase: use update_refDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  39. 6/6 sequencer: replace write_cherry_pick_head with update_refDavid Turner, Jul 28, 2015
  40. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2015
  41. David TurnerJul 28, 2015

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